TrentVilla Posted October 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted October 14, 2018 When is their bloody FFP hearing? Its gone very quiet... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 The EFL placed the club under a "soft transfer embargo". Blues failed FFP, but the reason they may get a more severe punishment is because they stuck 2 fingers up at the embargo and signed a player. The EFL will HAVE to make an example of them, otherwise FFP will be seen as a nonsense. Meanwhile Purslow confirmed yesterday we will work within FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 19 hours ago, pas5898 said: The EFL placed the club under a "soft transfer embargo". Blues failed FFP, but the reason they may get a more severe punishment is because they stuck 2 fingers up at the embargo and signed a player. The EFL will HAVE to make an example of them, otherwise FFP will be seen as a nonsense. Meanwhile Purslow confirmed yesterday we will work within FFP. You would like to think so but I just see a heavy fine no points taken off which for me would be a disgrace and then other sides will have as point as whats the point of having ffp if you have a tiny club like blose saying stuff the rules we do what we want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted October 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: You would like to think so but I just see a heavy fine no points taken off which for me would be a disgrace and then other sides will have as point as whats the point of having ffp if you have a tiny club like blose saying stuff the rules we do what we want. Fining a club without a pot to piss in seems pointless. Funnily enough a 15 point deduction would leave them pointless too well minis points to be precise! It has to be a points deduction of some sort but probably suspended to if you do it again you get the deduction. The rest of the league is waiting to see how much they can get away with should the punishment not fit the crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 Just now, S-Platt said: Fining a club without a pot to piss in seems pointless. Funnily enough a 15 point deduction would leave them pointless too well minis points to be precise! It has to be a points deduction of some sort but probably suspended to if you do it again you get the deduction. The rest of the league is waiting to see how much they can get away with should the punishment not fit the crime. I hear what your saying but having a 'suspended point deduction' is even more pointless. Teams will be like ok i spend what i want risk get in trouble but if we go up the point deduction wont matter as we would have gone up. It should be a points deduction straight up in my view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted October 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: I hear what your saying but having a 'suspended point deduction' is even more pointless. Teams will be like ok i spend what i want risk get in trouble but if we go up the point deduction wont matter as we would have gone up. It should be a points deduction straight up in my view I agree let's just see if The Football League has the minerals! I have a feeling they don't hence why it's gone quiet and when they do act it will be something ridiculous like I said. They have a chance to draw a line in the sand here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, S-Platt said: I agree let's just see if The Football League has the minerals! I have a feeling they don't hence why it's gone quiet and when they do act it will be something ridiculous like I said. They have a chance to draw a line in the sand here. Yep I'm not expecting anything to happen. Then the whole ffp comes a complete laughing stock. If blose get away with it I will have no fears about us getting in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) On 17/10/2018 at 08:49, Demitri_C said: Yep I'm not expecting anything to happen. Then the whole ffp comes a complete laughing stock. If blose get away with it I will have no fears about us getting in trouble. Me either. The sanction that might make sense is a huge fine which would lead to one of two options, 1. the rich owner could just pay it which is fair enough. If he's rich enough to pay the big fine then the club is not going to go bust. 2. the owner can't afford the fine which puts the club into administration, a points deduction is implemented and the club's debt's are sorted out. Given that the SHA's owners don't have any money, unlike our owners, they would end up in option 2. Lovely Jubbely. Edited October 18, 2018 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifamad Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 On 18/10/2018 at 10:17, villa89 said: Given that the SHA's owners don't have any money, unlike our owners, they would end up in option 2. Lovely Jubbely. Their owners do have money though? Infact I remember reading on BM that their owners are infact extremely wealthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, fifamad said: Their owners do have money though? Infact I remember reading on BM that their owners are infact extremely wealthy. You would defend them to the death. Not that i am suspicious 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Zatman said: You would defend them to the death. Not that i am suspicious It's not a defence. They are either rich, or they aren't (to be clear, I don't know which it is). It's empirically measurable, so it's not a defence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Whisper it quietly (or I may have stolen fifamad's login) but their level this season hasn't been far off top 6....8 unbeaten for them anyway and upcoming home games v Reading and Hull.... Don't quite think they'll be in a relegation battle this season somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted October 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: Whisper it quietly (or I may have stolen fifamad's login) but their level this season hasn't been far off top 6....8 unbeaten for them anyway and upcoming home games v Reading and Hull.... Don't quite think they'll be in a relegation battle this season somehow. Credit where it's due Gary Monk is doing an amazing job polishing a turd. The squad will bite them in the ass when suspensions and injuries come though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 21, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2018 I can only assume the football league are waiting until small heath reach 21 points exactly before imposing the maximum points reduction for shits and giggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Seem like they're difficult to beat unfortunately. Hopefully their little bubble pops soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Monks one of the best managers in this league. So wasted at the sty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 31 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Monks one of the best managers in this league. So wasted at the sty His record as a manager is of a man who starts well enough, gets a decent run of results together, but ultimately falls away and then jumps ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 9 hours ago, meregreen said: His record as a manager is of a man who starts well enough, gets a decent run of results together, but ultimately falls away and then jumps ship. The squad he has is poor, and he ha shad absolutely zero money to spend. I hate to say it but blose have a very good manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: The squad he has is poor, and he ha shad absolutely zero money to spend. I hate to say it but blose have a very good manager My point still stands. He can get good results early doors, but ultimately he bottles it and quits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Jutkiewicz is currently one of if not the best player in the league (based on meaningless statistics) but still...anyone who can get him playing is alright by me. Monk is a decent manager, he gets teams organised and better than the sum of their parts. Which is what a manager should always do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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