Hank Scorpio Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Your name is pissflaps Correct. Are you ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Pissflaps said: Correct. Are you ok? I’m just really struggling to read anything you say it’s so distracting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Keener window-cleaner said: can the agent also tell others if there is a release clause? Agents can do what they like no one could prove they have said anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I haven't seen Sanson play but his stats look pretty decent (not amazing) and he seems to be rated in the media going by the google search of stories about him in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 All for Sanson as he is a v.good player who IF true I don’t think it will be for anything close to €22mill. The deal must make sense now more so than before. Incremental increases in quality of players is what it’s all about now. More competition for places will obvs raise the quality of the whole squad as this grows. I’m v.intrigued to see how McGinn reacts to real competition for his place and see if he can elevate his game to the next level. A CM pool of Luiz, Ramsey, Sanson, McGinn, Barkley, would be a healthy position to be in for the second half of the season and beyond. OT Remember the Nightmare(s) of Whelan & Jedinak ... Now a distant haunting... Loan Hourihane & Poss Nakamba and release Lansbury. Simples. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Mat Kendrick's Dentist said: Sanson is a very good player, and so I'd be delighted if we sign him. That said, I'm a little surprised that it's a CM we're after, as it's the position we're best stocked in. Sanson is very much "starting" quality, but then so are Dougie, McGinn, and Barkley, not to mention Jack if needed! Strongly disagree sir. To play as one of the two sitting midfielders we have no real back-up at all. Nakamba and Hourihane have huge holes in their game, and Ramsey is young buck who could fill the gap but it's asking a lot for him to have a run starting games. McGinn or Luiz out for any length of time, we struggle IMO. I think a signing in that position in January is what will give us a chance of finishing top 8. That plus a forward. Having said all that I don't think that's particularly a perfect role for Sanson. He could do it for sure, but he's better suited going forward. I'd be a fan of this signing. He adds class and Champions League experience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Pissflaps said: How easy is it going to be to sign players with travel corridors closed due to covid, added Brexit visa complications do we think? I think anyone who has played Champions League from a decent top 5 league would have no problem. He played in all six Marseille group games this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Strongly disagree sir. To play as one of the two sitting midfielders we have no real back-up at all. Nakamba and Hourihane have huge holes in their game, and Ramsey is young buck who could fill the gap but it's asking a lot for him to have a run starting games. McGinn or Luiz out for any length of time, we struggle IMO. I think a signing in that position in January is what will give us a chance of finishing top 8. That plus a forward. Having said all that I don't think that's particularly a perfect role for Sanson. He could do it for sure, but he's better suited going forward. I'd be a fan of this signing. He adds class and Champions League experience. I think we're somewhat on the same page - I'd be a fan of this signing too, as I said! My bolded comment was just that arguably 4 of our 5 best players (can) play CM, so I'm surprised it's an area we're targeting at this stage, rather than, say, LB/RW/ST, as those are areas in which our starting players may need to be improved upon if we're to finish top 8, as you say. In summary, I'm mildly surprised but will be very happy if it gets done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxstock92 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, Mat Kendrick's Dentist said: so I'm surprised it's an area we're targeting at this stage, rather than, say, LB/RW/ST, as those are areas in which our starting players may need to be improved upon if we're to finish top 8, as you say. Can only assume that our desired targets are not likely available. We are in a position where we can be a bit more patient in terms of who we get and when to a degree. we seemed to have been linked with Sansom before so if he’s available now (especially with the french tv deal saga) then it would make sense to go in for him now. I would imagine rotation is on the mind incase anything happened to Luiz or mcginn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 hours ago, thabucks said: All for Sanson as he is a v.good player who IF true I don’t think it will be for anything close to €22mill. The deal must make sense now more so than before. Incremental increases in quality of players is what it’s all about now. More competition for places will obvs raise the quality of the whole squad as this grows. I’m v.intrigued to see how McGinn reacts to real competition for his place and see if he can elevate his game to the next level. A CM pool of Luiz, Ramsey, Sanson, McGinn, Barkley, would be a healthy position to be in for the second half of the season and beyond. OT Remember the Nightmare(s) of Whelan & Jedinak ... Now a distant haunting... Loan Hourihane & Poss Nakamba and release Lansbury. Simples. I get the French pricing point in this window but I am sure I saw earlier they were asking for 35 in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 17, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 17, 2021 11 hours ago, Sam-AVFC said: Antonee Robinson looks good, it's a shame we didn't get him over Fulham although they were rumoured to give him a stupid wage. Said we should go for him at the time, bargain even with the wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 It's like I said we are very reliant on that Luiz McGinn axis. When one of them are tired or off their game we lack drive. They're the engine of the team. They have to work very hard so a player of similar qualities and ability is necessary for what is a very packed schedule for the reminder of the season. In attack El Ghazi, Traore, and Trezguet have all shown they can fill in on the right and when Barkley is out. We also have Ramsey in the CAM position. Jack is virtually impossible to cover without spending 100m. Left back is the next area of concern, we have loaned out Rowe so we are left with Taylor and Hause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphil Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Genuine question...... on the assumption we get a couple of Brooks and Sanson type players this month, should we really be spending on another striker right now? If you believe there’s a player in Wes, that Traore can play as a 9, and that Barry is good enough for the 1st team squad next season, aren’t there other priorities? I can see a loan move if Wes isn’t quite ready, but permanent move for Barkley and possibly CB and LB cover would be higher on my list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, Villaphil said: Genuine question...... on the assumption we get a couple of Brooks and Sanson type players this month, should we really be spending on another striker right now? If you believe there’s a player in Wes, that Traore can play as a 9, and that Barry is good enough for the 1st team squad next season, aren’t there other priorities? I can see a loan move if Wes isn’t quite ready, but permanent move for Barkley and possibly CB and LB cover would be higher on my list. I certainly think we should as I explained on the previous page (139) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Villaphil said: Genuine question...... on the assumption we get a couple of Brooks and Sanson type players this month, should we really be spending on another striker right now? If you believe there’s a player in Wes, that Traore can play as a 9, and that Barry is good enough for the 1st team squad next season, aren’t there other priorities? I can see a loan move if Wes isn’t quite ready, but permanent move for Barkley and possibly CB and LB cover would be higher on my list. I tend to lean toward this perspective. Only a world class striker will improve us. So it's almost impossible to improve us in that area in a Jan window. We have 4 players in the squad all capable of doing a job upfront in Watkins absence. We aren't really that reliant on a striker to score our goals. I see this window as an opportunity to fill up holes in the squad. We don't have anyone capable of coming in and offering the team what McGinn does so Sanson makes makes sense. We will only have one specialist left back come the end of the season and Taylor is at best a championship player. RW and CF are best addressed at the end of the season imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 With regard to sanson or someone like him could quite easily be in the first 11 I think, we really lack any quality beyond the first 11. If barkley is injured and we play a 433 we need a 6 and two 8s, Luiz could be the 6 and mcginn and someone like sanson the two 8s. With barkley injured we effectively had to move grealish central to cover, with someone like sanson we could have a midfield 3 of mcginn, luiz, sanson, and a front 3 of grealish, watkins, traore. If we played a 4231 either sanson or mcginn could play the AM role. (Again if barkley injured or whatever) Also let's not forget we don't actually own barkley. Also sanson could cover the DM role if mcginn or Luiz are absent for whatever reason. Sanson seems a versatile player, a bit like mcginn tbh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 West Ham (Moyes) have said they have put "big offers in for players, but not yet accepted", i wonder if they are the english club in for Sanson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, MaVilla said: West Ham (Moyes) have said they have put "big offers in for players, but not yet accepted", i wonder if they are the english club in for Sanson. The Sun were reporting they are. But you know, it's the Sun so who knows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxstock92 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, MaVilla said: West Ham (Moyes) have said they have put "big offers in for players, but not yet accepted", i wonder if they are the english club in for Sanson. Got to wonder how they have the money considering they u-turned on benrahma from buy to loan with option at the last minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Loxstock92 said: Got to wonder how they have the money considering they u-turned on benrahma from buy to loan with option at the last minute. i imagine from the Haller money, plus the money they actually have but claimed they didnt in the summer with regard to benrahma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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