YouUnastanFren Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, TheMelvillan said: nah, I still call it dirty Especially as in that instance the season ended with us promoted and them not. Can't chalk it up to winner's mentality if you end up as an also ran. You're just a dirty loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheMelvillan Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I don't care. All that matters is that Villa win. If dirty is what it would take to win a certain game i couldn't give a s*** Meh, all about opinions I guess. Winning mentality for me is having bravery on the ball , perserverence, never give up, run yourself into the ground, demanding the ball even when being targetted, playing your own game, preparing physically and mentally for every game. Kicking better players because you cant match them for skill or any of the above named attributes is, for me, dirty and I have no respect for it 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted October 22, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 I think the dirty thing is encouraged by the fans too especially at home games. Personally I love it, call us Dirty Leeds. Its definitely not something Bielsa encourages though, he regularly tells players to stop pulling shit, as recently as the Wolves game. At which point promptly everybody shut up and stopped. Its partly why Jansson was sold FYI. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, villalad21 said: You call it dirty. I call it winning mentality. If in a game being dirty is what it would take to win the game I'd do it any day of the week and wouldn't feel bad about it. Would you be happy if Dean sent a side out to hurt a player on the opposition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: Meh, all about opinions I guess. Winning mentality for me is having bravery on the ball , perserverence, never give up, run yourself into the ground, demanding the ball even when being targetted, playing your own game, preparing physically and mentally for every game. Kicking better players because you cant match them for skill or any of the above named attributes is, for me, dirty and I have no respect for it Spot on. No ‘great’ sides have been dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Spot on. No ‘great’ sides have been dirty. Mourinho's Inter certainly had a nasty side. In that Spurs documentary he banged on his players they will never win anything by being nice guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted October 22, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, HKP90 said: For all the talk of Bielsa masterclasses, they were dirty buggers last time we played them. I’d not put it past them to properly try and take out Jack early doors. Fwiw, I have time for Bielsa, but as Clough showed, you can’t take the Leeds out of Leeds. This is a proper outdated view of Leeds/football though Its not 1975. There's a huge difference between fouling to stop a player advancing and 'break the bastards legs' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just now, villalad21 said: Mourinho's Inter certainly had a nasty side. In that Spurs documentary he banged on his players they will never win anything by being nice guys. Yeah, I saw that too, but there is nice, then there’s committed, determined, and finally shithouse. You need to be determined without the shithousery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 We have too many headaches for Leeds to cope with. I'm hoping we really hit our stride in this game. If you go back and analyse our first 4 performances this season, most will find we have been far from perfect, we will get closer to that with familiarity and confidence. If we put them away comfortably, I hope the media finally give us a bit of credit, fair play to Bielsa, I like him but I cannot stand the undeserved hype surrounding Leeds. 2-0 UTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted October 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Rino8 said: This is a proper outdated view of Leeds/football though Its not 1975. There's a huge difference between fouling to stop a player advancing and 'break the bastards legs' Page 1058 on the Grealish thread, when we played them last year. There is lots of talk of Leeds having targeted Jack. Bielsa era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouUnastanFren Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) This image sums up my memory of the tactical innovation used to stop Grealish last time He can't figuratively break your ankles if you've already literally broken his Edited October 22, 2020 by YouUnastanFren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark_1989 Posted October 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Villaphil said: Still early doors, but might be tempted to rest SJM, he played in all of Scotland’s games. Maybe have Luiz, Nakamba and Barkley start in midfield. Luiz a little more advanced than normal. SJM to come off the bench. I guess it depends it’s whether you think this form is temporary and so want to ride the wave as long as it lasts, or whether you think this is where we belong and we need to rotate the squad to keep us fresh to stay there. Is there a touch of the MON about playing the same team week in week out, and then at some point being forced to rest half the first team due to injuries / fatigue ? What is the obsession of changing the team ffs. Let’s not get carried away with ourselves and start getting clever. We have 11 players playing well, do not upset the rhythm we are in. Let’s not get clever and above our station. Things can change quickly in football, I’m sure within the next month the team will change slightly due to enforced reasons I.e injury. No need to mess around right now. Play Leeds then well over a week till Soton no need to tinker 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mark_1989 said: What is the obsession of changing the team ffs. It's why we bottled top 4 under MON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_1989 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, villalad21 said: It's why we bottled top 4 under MON We are 4 games into the season let’s not get carried away. We have an extra day on Leeds, we will of had nearly 5 full days rest, after Leeds we have 8 day till we play again. WE DO NOT NEED TO START RESTING OUR PLAYERS. Edited October 22, 2020 by Mark_1989 Spelling 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, villalad21 said: It's why we bottled top 4 under MON First time I agree with you However, I think it is a bit pre-emptive sice we are 4 games into the season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I'm absolutely baffled as to why fans and the ex players in the media don't play down their expectations publically. We will meet a Leeds side full of confidence who work very hard. We can easily lose this. Just baffled. Talk about setting yourself up for disappointment and ridicule. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Tomorrow I think is a chance to put Leeds in there place for the mess they created in the play offs. What a disgusting farce it was and all credit to Bielsa he corrected his players behaviour. I had never seen such a disgusting moment as what I had witnessed from Bamford on that day. Not only did Bamford go on and score in an immoral way but he got a player in trouble and sent off. Somehow I have a feeling that tomorrow, something that usually doesnt happen is going to and Bamford will be at the centre of it all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 We can easily lose any game in the premier league, if we're not at our best, or if the opposition on the day happen to better than us, or we have some bad luck. Leeds seem to me the kind of random team that will win and lose games and it won't be easy to predict when either of those two oppostie outcomes will vist them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rino8 Posted October 22, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, HKP90 said: Page 1058 on the Grealish thread, when we played them last year. There is lots of talk of Leeds having targeted Jack. Bielsa era. Nah I think any other team fouls nobody bats an eyelid. People are looking for excuses to say 'hur hur dirty leeds' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 hours ago, HKP90 said: Spot on. No ‘great’ sides have been dirty. I think the Leeds team under Don Revie comes close with Johnny Giles, Billy Bremner and Norman Hunter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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