sne Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: He would be a fantastic signing. I have seen some comments on social media saying he could be another Danny Drinkwater. Not a chance. For a start he is much better player than Danny Drinkwater has ever been. Secondly he is in his prime and has regularly played for England over last couple of years and has the incentive of the Euro's next year and securing a place in the squad. He'd walk into our midfield. Maybe it's stuff like this the mean? Fwiw I know very little about what kind of person he is, might have been a one off. Quote Chelsea star Ross Barkley risks wrath of Frank Lampard again after being filmed TOPLESS in Dubai nightclub during international break Ross Barkley sat out England's internationals due to an ankle injury He was given permission by Chelsea to go on holiday during the break Video comes after he was embroiled in a row with a taxi driver over spilled chips The midfielder was escorted to a cash machine by police following the argument Ross Barkley is facing further questions over his professionalism after he was videoed dancing topless and seemingly the worse for wear in a Dubai nightclub during last week's international break. The Chelsea midfielder, who has been out for a month with an ankle injury, had permission from his club to go on holiday and was not misbehaving in the video. But manager Frank Lampard may feel the need to have a word with him, especially after criticising the 25-year-old for a row with a Liverpool taxi driver in September. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-7716239/Chelsea-star-Ross-Barkley-filmed-TOPLESS-Dubai-nightclub.html Edit: A quick google also says he got punched out at a nightclub a few years back so maybe that's the Drinkwater comparison Edited September 24, 2020 by sne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I reckon we would be the perfect club for him too. Get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 It’s not often @TrentVilla gets his balls out on the table (regarding transfers at least). I hope you’re on the money with this one too, as you normally are, despite the different contact providing info. This would be superb business. I’m very excited by this prospect! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 The comparisons with Drinkwater are lazy at best. Not remotely the same 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, sne said: Maybe it's stuff like this the mean? Fwiw I know very little about what kind of person he is, might have been a one off. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-7716239/Chelsea-star-Ross-Barkley-filmed-TOPLESS-Dubai-nightclub.html Sounds like he’d get on great with Jack! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 24, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, Stevo985 said: The comparisons with Drinkwater are lazy at best. Not remotely the same Agreed, aside from both being Chelsea players there is no similarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, TheMightyVillans said: We could be starting games with 7 english players. You love to see it. Pretty sure we were the last PL team to ever field 11 English players and an English manager in John Gregory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Jack's had his fair share of off the pitch issues himself over the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Barkley would be a huge signing... he's top quality 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Ross Barkley would be an excellent signing, absolutely huge if we got him, I hope there's scope to make it a permanent move. Also, Drinkwater is 30, has admitted he lost motivation and desire to be at the level and standards he would have liked, and that's required for the PL. Barkley is 26, and whilst playing for Everton was one of the brightest prospects in the PL, certainly more capable on the ball than Drinkwater has ever been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted September 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) I think more importantly, having Barkley in the team will free up space for Jack, we may see Jack's full potential Hope this gets done soon Edited September 24, 2020 by HongKongVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 6 hours ago, striker said: with hindsight We should do all our deals with hindsight in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 19 hours ago, av1 said: Barkley has 30 odd England caps and has played regularly for Chelsea, yet you would prefer Swift or Gallagher? All we need now is SGC telling us that we'd be better off playing some 13yr old chap from the youth team, and VillaLad21 telling us that if the owners had any ambition they'd be trying to take Timo Werner rather than Barkley. You lot crack me up. If you read my post I said I don't think Barkley is a no. 8 and that is what I think we need (or hope we will when we sign a left winger and get Jack back in the middle). However, I don't think he has deserved 30 caps just as I do think, and I suspect most on here would agree, Jack should have a dozen plus caps by now. Just because Gareth Southgate picks people doesn't make them England quality. The only time I have seen Barkley play consistently well was towards the end of his time at Everton where he looked a real player but, even at that time, I believe that he was playing as a "10" and not an "8". He has a wicked shot from the edge of the box BUT so does CH. I do rate Loftus Cheek but it is his injury record, and potentially his attitude, that worries me. Both of these would also be expensive/take up wage capacity which is fine as long as it doesn't stop us satisfying other priorities. I would prefer Swift or Gallagher (both with great potential as far as I can see and both on the way up and not down) as they would be cheaper back up options to McGinn leaving us money to prioritise left back cover, a left winger and possibly a striker. If we could get somebody who would be an upgrade on McGinn (and I don't think Barkley is as an "8") then that would be fine as long as we can also still satisfy what I would see as more pressing other priorities. If Barkley is cover for Jack at 10 then that could work for me but I'm not sure he would come for that and I think he would be too expensive to do that? I do think the loan route (without an option to buy) would work if the idea is to free up Ramsey to go out on loan to a championship club (lets see if Brentford would take him so we can start to establish a relationship which might make next summer's window easier??) and get 30+ games so he can come back a better and more experienced player and compete for a starting position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 17 hours ago, A'Villan said: Drinkwater is 30, has admitted he lost motivation and desire to be at the level and standards he would have liked, and that's required for the PL. Barkley is 26, and whilst playing for Everton was one of the brightest prospects in the PL, certainly more capable on the ball than Drinkwater has ever been Also, the comparison between the two isn't as lazy as suggested, as the career trajectory of Drinkwater should provide a salient lesson for Barkley and all professional footballers. Big move doesn't work as hoped, stop playing football almost entirely during your peak and end up on the scrap heap at 30! Barkley should move, and lay the foundations of a brilliant career, rather than one with a few bright spots and a lot of hype. Could be an excellent signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 https://www.footballfancast.com/aston-villa-transfer-rumours/avfc-latest-news-ross-barkley-rumours-chelsea-dean-smith-flop-signing-loan-pl-gossip I think that this is a pretty good synopsis of Barkley and sums up my thoughts on him. I like Roy Keane's quote from that article: "his best position was “on the bench.”" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 25, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, barry'sboots said: https://www.footballfancast.com/aston-villa-transfer-rumours/avfc-latest-news-ross-barkley-rumours-chelsea-dean-smith-flop-signing-loan-pl-gossip I think that this is a pretty good synopsis of Barkley and sums up my thoughts on him. I like Roy Keane's quote from that article: "his best position was “on the bench.”" Well if that rentagob Keane doesn't like him, he must be worth a shot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, barry'sboots said: I do rate Loftus Cheek but it is his injury record, and potentially his attitude, that worries me. Horrendous injury record. Why "potentially his attitude"? I swear vague comments about poor attitude get thrown around about anyone who isn't playing every game and smiling while doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, barry'sboots said: https://www.footballfancast.com/aston-villa-transfer-rumours/avfc-latest-news-ross-barkley-rumours-chelsea-dean-smith-flop-signing-loan-pl-gossip I think that this is a pretty good synopsis of Barkley and sums up my thoughts on him. I like Roy Keane's quote from that article: "his best position was “on the bench.”" His best position was on the bench? Talk it up. FWIW, the bench warmers are actually the unsung heroes of any success that a team sees. Edited September 25, 2020 by A'Villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Sam-AVFC said: Horrendous injury record. Why "potentially his attitude"? I swear vague comments about poor attitude get thrown around about anyone who isn't playing every game and smiling while doing so. Because I think he looks like he has every tool in his box - pace, power/physicality, strength, height, skill - to be the best no. 8 in the country but can't seem to deliver it consistently. I have thought this of him for the last couple of years. If he did he would be smashing it at Chelsea? The fact he hasn't may be down to injuries but could potentially be down to his attitude/application - this could also be a factor in why he keeps picking up injuries. I don't know him, hence why I have said potentially and could!! I am sure JT would have a much better view from their time together at Chelsea, as he has demonstrated with his insight into Traore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, A'Villan said: His best position was on the bench? Talk it up. FWIW, the bench warmers are actually the unsung heroes of any success that a team sees. 50 minutes ago, barry'sboots said: The only time I have seen Barkley play consistently well was towards the end of his time at Everton where he looked a real player but, even at that time, I believe that he was playing as a "10" and not an "8". I've just seen he has "8" on his shorts but I am sure, from memory, he was the furthest forward/more attacking of the three CM'ers. Edited September 25, 2020 by barry'sboots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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