VillaChris Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Kingman said: 7th spot looking pretty much nailed on now for a European place given Spurs v Man City league cup final Depends on FA cup. Knowing our luck it would be a Cardiff-Portsmouth final like 2008 when we finished 6th and still had to use Intertoto to quality (as Spurs won the league cup but finished 10th or something). Also didn't qualify for euro in 2004 when 6th as in those days FA cup runners up got in and that was randomly Millwall. And Boro won league cup but finished bottom half. Would actually be interested how many times in last 20 years 6th place hasn't been good enough for 6th place, get the feeling we're incredibly unlucky in that regard as can't think of too many other seasons like those two. Edited January 6, 2021 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 11 hours ago, VillaChris said: 71 points just to get 6th place.... Last season 62 points was enough to get 5th. 71 points was second place in 2015/16! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Should be fairly simple now for the PL to reschedule our game against Newcastle with us both out of the cup, virus permitting of course but no reason that game cannot be scheduled for the next cup weekend. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 On 07/01/2021 at 02:56, VillaChris said: Depends on FA cup. Knowing our luck it would be a Cardiff-Portsmouth final like 2008 when we finished 6th and still had to use Intertoto to quality (as Spurs won the league cup but finished 10th or something). Also didn't qualify for euro in 2004 when 6th as in those days FA cup runners up got in and that was randomly Millwall. And Boro won league cup but finished bottom half. Would actually be interested how many times in last 20 years 6th place hasn't been good enough for 6th place, get the feeling we're incredibly unlucky in that regard as can't think of too many other seasons like those two. Add to that the fact that the first time they’ve cancelled runners-up going to Europe was when we played the FA cup final against Arsenal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, abdulaziz1 said: Add to that the fact that the first time they’ve cancelled runners-up going to Europe was when we played the FA cup final against Arsenal. Indeed, Hull got in exactly the same circumstances the previous year, runners up to Arsenal. Although would've been complete waste of time given our 15/16 level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, abdulaziz1 said: Add to that the fact that the first time they’ve cancelled runners-up going to Europe was when we played the FA cup final against Arsenal. Saved us from getting knocked out by Dundalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieVillan Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Is anyone else looking at the league table and thinking we could still do something? Maybe not the title, but top 6 or even top 4? Just a few things that jump out right now - we are 4 points ahead of Wolves with 4 games in hand! - we are 2 points ahead of Arsenal with 3 games in hand... - we are 9 points ahead of Brighton in 16th place with 4 games in hand, which makes me feel pretty safe... - we are 6 points off 4th place with at least 2 games in hand on all those teams above us, which to me says we are in mix. Now games in hand don’t mean points, but I would say mid-table with on average 3 games in hand on the rest of league is a pretty decent position! Hopefully the COVID hasn’t broken our stride...if we are lucky it might have been a bit of mid-season break for the players and they come back refreshed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 16, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, GeordieVillan said: Is anyone else looking at the league table and thinking we could still do something? Maybe not the title, but top 6 or even top 4? Just a few things that jump out right now - we are 4 points ahead of Wolves with 4 games in hand! - we are 2 points ahead of Arsenal with 3 games in hand... - we are 9 points ahead of Brighton in 16th place with 4 games in hand, which makes me feel pretty safe... - we are 6 points off 4th place with at least 2 games in hand on all those teams above us, which to me says we are in mix. Now games in hand don’t mean points, but I would say mid-table with on average 3 games in hand on the rest of league is a pretty decent position! Hopefully the COVID hasn’t broken our stride...if we are lucky it might have been a bit of mid-season break for the players and they come back refreshed... Nah I stopped doing this a while ago. I think we'll have a complete mixed bag of results now due to fixture congestion and our relatively small squad. Think it will be difficult to string a lot of good results together now seeing as we're already 3 games behind others. Edited January 16, 2021 by PieFacE 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 I think if we get to 60 points it will be a successful season, see where we go from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Let’s just hit the 40 point mark and then start thinking about where we could go. It’s a weird season. It almost doesn’t seem completely real. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, GeordieVillan said: Is anyone else looking at the league table and thinking we could still do something? Maybe not the title, but top 6 or even top 4? Just a few things that jump out right now - we are 4 points ahead of Wolves with 4 games in hand! - we are 2 points ahead of Arsenal with 3 games in hand... - we are 9 points ahead of Brighton in 16th place with 4 games in hand, which makes me feel pretty safe... - we are 6 points off 4th place with at least 2 games in hand on all those teams above us, which to me says we are in mix. Now games in hand don’t mean points, but I would say mid-table with on average 3 games in hand on the rest of league is a pretty decent position! Hopefully the COVID hasn’t broken our stride...if we are lucky it might have been a bit of mid-season break for the players and they come back refreshed... One the flip side likes of Everton, Leicester and even West Ham are starting to get a fair few points clear of us albeit with our large number of games in hand. Chelsea getting the late winner was also a bit annoying. Going to put a bit of pressure on us to reel off some wins starting from Newcastle to keep up. Good thing with likes of Wolves, Arsenal and Leeds all faltering is we're in a very strong position now to finish a minimum of 10th and hopefully a few places higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 Southampton losing is good for us. That's a realistic team in top half we can be finishing above. Aside from the win over Liverpool their form hasn't been that good recently and they're struggling to score goals, only 2 goals in last 6 league games now. Big game there in two weeks. We need to show we can handle their mega press for once as we always struggle against it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Three games in hand of the three clubs who are currently above and behind us and four in front of Wolves with four games in hand (mind the gap). Given the three games we have to make up are Manchester City (a), Newcastle (h) & Everton (h), a reasonable return of 4 - 6 points from these games, would currently see us in 6th - 4th place. Top half looks a realistic target now (a gap could soon develop between the top and bottom half), anything more could see us dusting off our passports next season (for one of the European competitions). This will all be dependant upon whether this break in games sees us coming back like it has been a mid season break rather than an energy draining couple of weeks. Ten points from safety and seventy points from the title. That is a nice situation to be in and one I would have grabbed with both hands at the end of last season. Enjoy the ride everyone and let us see where this magical mystery trip takes us! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 Would be amazing to get an elusive win at the Etihad wouldnt it setting our confidence levels to overdrive for this month of game after game. Would put us in a great position, unexpected wins are the best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 5 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Would be amazing to get an elusive win at the Etihad wouldnt it setting our confidence levels to overdrive for this month of game after game. Would put us in a great position, unexpected wins are the best I'll be honest, the way 2021 has gone so far for the gaffer and the team, I think they will be on cloud 9 if they come out of the City match with a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 (edited) 11 points behind top place with 3 games in hand. The title challenge is still on! Edited January 17, 2021 by ender4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2021 anyone else watch that game thinking "villa are miles better than these two". nice feeling to have i must say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, ender4 said: 8 points behind top place with 3 games in hand. The title challenge is still on! i make it 11 points personally. but agree title still on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i make it 11 points personally. but agree title still on! Thanks, edited my post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 17, 2021 Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: anyone else watch that game thinking "villa are miles better than these two". . NO. Also wondering if you are watching our next opponents and thinking the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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