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24 minutes ago, rayk said:

The thing I’d like to point out is this. We are collectively creaming ourselves over signing Rashica but have doubts over Bertrand.

I find It a bit strange given that....

Bertrand came through the Chelsea Academy (scouted at like 14/15) whereas Rashica just went through his local team in Kosova.

Both end up playing a lot of games in the Eredivisie.

Bertrand plays 66 games and scores 25 goals, Rashica plays 83 games and scores just 13 goals.

Both leave the Eredivisie, Bertrand for Ligue 1, Rashica for the Bundesliga.

Bertrand has played 87 games and scored 21 goals, Rashica has played 63 games and scored 18 goals.

Yes you’d think that gives Rashica the edge but Bertrand played for CL semi finalists, Rashica Played for a relegation threatened club in the Bundesliga, which means that Bertrand had players like Memphis Depay and Moussa Dembele as competition.....whereas Rashica had......erm....who to worry about.

All I’m saying is that it’s crazy how a blog can go wild for one but goes cold against the other when Bertrand’s record edges that of Rashica.

Really interesting point there. Easy to get carried away in both directions, perhaps depends on how the tone is set at the beginning of the thread, someone is overly positive and we get all enthusiastic or someone being overly negative and we get all critical. It's like one of those mobs in the Simpsons!

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13 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said:

Really interesting point there. Easy to get carried away in both directions, perhaps depends on how the tone is set at the beginning of the thread, someone is overly positive and we get all enthusiastic or someone being overly negative and we get all critical. It's like one of those mobs in the Simpsons!

I think it might be a belief that one is on the up and one is on the way down.

But roll the clock back 12 months, everyone would be creaming over Bertrand and people should be saying ‘don’t be daft’ if Rashica was mentioned as an alternative.

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1 hour ago, rayk said:

The thing I’d like to point out is this. We are collectively creaming ourselves over signing Rashica but have doubts over Bertrand.

I find It a bit strange given that....

Bertrand came through the Chelsea Academy (scouted at like 14/15) whereas Rashica just went through his local team in Kosova.

Both end up playing a lot of games in the Eredivisie.

Bertrand plays 66 games and scores 25 goals, Rashica plays 83 games and scores just 13 goals.

Both leave the Eredivisie, Bertrand for Ligue 1, Rashica for the Bundesliga.

Bertrand has played 87 games and scored 21 goals, Rashica has played 63 games and scored 18 goals.

Yes you’d think that gives Rashica the edge but Bertrand played for CL semi finalists, Rashica Played for a relegation threatened club in the Bundesliga, which means that Bertrand had players like Memphis Depay and Moussa Dembele as competition.....whereas Rashica had......erm....who to worry about.

All I’m saying is that it’s crazy how a blog can go wild for one but goes cold against the other when Bertrand’s record edges that of Rashica.

 

 

Cracking post. 

Agree completely. 

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3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

We keep saying this, but again... Rashica plays left, Traore plays right.

Crikey I’m glad you said this but it’s mind blowingly silly that whilst a player can play ‘anywhere across the back three’ people don’t recognise the difference between playing LW or RW or through the middle.

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20 minutes ago, useless said:

Rashica's played more games on the right in his career than he has on the left, I think if he signs he and Grealish will both start on the wings and will interchange.

Well we ain’t gonna sign Rashica on that basis......given we’re about to sign Bertrand who is a RW specialist.

ie it Won’t be Bertrand RW, Jack on the LW and Rashica through the middle.

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We don't have to squeeze everyone we sign into the first eleven, we're allowed to have good players on the bench as well. I expect us to sign a top central midfielder, to play alongside Luiz and McGinn.

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1 hour ago, rayk said:

The thing I’d like to point out is this. We are collectively creaming ourselves over signing Rashica but have doubts over Bertrand.

I find It a bit strange given that....

Bertrand came through the Chelsea Academy (scouted at like 14/15) whereas Rashica just went through his local team in Kosova.

Both end up playing a lot of games in the Eredivisie.

Bertrand plays 66 games and scores 25 goals, Rashica plays 83 games and scores just 13 goals.

Both leave the Eredivisie, Bertrand for Ligue 1, Rashica for the Bundesliga.

Bertrand has played 87 games and scored 21 goals, Rashica has played 63 games and scored 18 goals.

Yes you’d think that gives Rashica the edge but Bertrand played for CL semi finalists, Rashica Played for a relegation threatened club in the Bundesliga, which means that Bertrand had players like Memphis Depay and Moussa Dembele as competition.....whereas Rashica had......erm....who to worry about.

All I’m saying is that it’s crazy how a blog can go wild for one but goes cold against the other when Bertrand’s record edges that of Rashica.

 

 

The other thing I’d like to add is that Bertrand seems to be happy to join us despite his better pedigree.....but Rashica still believes he can do better than us.

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3 minutes ago, useless said:

We don't have to squeeze everyone we sign into the first eleven, we're allowed to have good players on the bench as well. I expect us to sign a top central midfielder, to play alongside Luiz and McGinn.

Totally agree with this. 

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14 minutes ago, useless said:

We don't have to squeeze everyone we sign into the first eleven, we're allowed to have good players on the bench as well. I expect us to sign a top central midfielder, to play alongside Luiz and McGinn.

Of course. But players like raschica and bertrand don't join teams that finished 17th to spend large parts of the season on the bench  

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2 hours ago, rayk said:

The thing I’d like to point out is this. We are collectively creaming ourselves over signing Rashica but have doubts over Bertrand.

I find It a bit strange given that....

Bertrand came through the Chelsea Academy (scouted at like 14/15) whereas Rashica just went through his local team in Kosova.

Both end up playing a lot of games in the Eredivisie.

Bertrand plays 66 games and scores 25 goals, Rashica plays 83 games and scores just 13 goals.

Both leave the Eredivisie, Bertrand for Ligue 1, Rashica for the Bundesliga.

Bertrand has played 87 games and scored 21 goals, Rashica has played 63 games and scored 18 goals.

Yes you’d think that gives Rashica the edge but Bertrand played for CL semi finalists, Rashica Played for a relegation threatened club in the Bundesliga, which means that Bertrand had players like Memphis Depay and Moussa Dembele as competition.....whereas Rashica had......erm....who to worry about.

All I’m saying is that it’s crazy how a blog can go wild for one but goes cold against the other when Bertrand’s record edges that of Rashica.

 

 

Great post. I apologise for ever comparing you to @villalad21

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