rodders0223 Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Probably be better than what we have looking at the lad's CV. Then again Trez and AEG ain't hard to improve on. Its clear Smith doesnt rate Benrahama enough to suggest dropping 25m+on him not going to happen.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Just go and get Benrahma instead for 25m. Benrahma - Watkins - Rashica McGinn - Grealish - Luiz Job done. (Provided McGinn sits back a bit). From the friendly today, McGinn seems to be sitting more. Looks back to his 18/19 style which is promising. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmirch Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I think the plan is to have one player from every country on the African continent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Just now, MrSmirch said: I think the plan is to have one player from every country on the African continent. Was first thing I thought when I saw he was Burkina Faso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) Looking through this guy's stats quickly from last season, it seems like he's assets if he comes to us will be his crossing ability and key passes. Edited September 13, 2020 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Looking through this guy's stats quickly from last season, it seems like he's assets if he comes to us will be his crossing ability and key passes. It's not going to be for his pace or trickery that's for sure after having watched a bit of him . Looks about as fast as a fortnight and his step overs are telegraphed the night before they happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted September 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2020 If Traore, or someone equally as quick, is 5 yards ahead because Cash has whacked it forwards faster than usual, then maybe him or someone as quick will see some better stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Think we have lost out or chose not to get benrahma and now will push this through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) I hate to sound negative but he doesn’t sound very good from some fan comments and the stats... could be wrong of course but he seems like a forward who doesn’t score or assist. I suppose he could be one of those players where some detailed stats are what we need and the scouting team has spotted that he does something subtle which will fit into our side... Edited September 13, 2020 by alreadyexists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Think we have lost out or chose not to get benrahma and now will push this through Really hope not. He does not improve the squad by much. Lyon fans (it's also my second team after Villa) can't wait for him to leave. He can't even get a game for them anymore and despite their UCL run, it's a pretty mediocre Lyon side that was hovering mid-table in their league last season. He is single footed, inconsistant and has attitude issues. And the reported price of around 17M is outrageous. We should pay no more for him than what a club would offer us for AEG. That's his level. Only way this makes sense is if he is a direct replacement for AEG or Jota and the price is much less than what is being quoted. For me - this would really be a case of one step forward, one step back in our recruitment. Edited September 13, 2020 by nepal_villan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ_1874 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) I think people might be being a bit negative with this one. Obviously Benrahma has been priced out of a move from both wage/transfer fee. He is probably asking for 70k plus and Brentford want £30m all in. From what I can see from his stats, Traore looks like a tricky forward who can beat his man and score, is the same age as Benrahma and has played at a higher level. Over his 3 season at Lyon he has 30 league goals or assists in 5655 minutes or a goal involvement every 188 minutes of play. (For reference Benrahma is about 140 minutes in the championship). His non-penalty xG+xA per 90 has been consistently at 0.4 or over the last 3 seasons but was 0.48 in his first season. His actual non-penalty G+A was 0.67 in his first season dropping to 0.38 in his second and 0.29 last season. Suggesting a poor season last season but he only got 1,200 minutes. If he can find his form from a couple of years ago, he is worth double what we are paying. Shots per 90 are pretty good 3.35 per 90 in his first season to 2.51 last season with shots on target % only 31.4% last season but 42% the season before. (Benrahma was 33% in 2018-2019 and 38% last season) Passing accuracy is pretty good for a forward (much better than Benrahma) with 75% last season but was 80% both seasons before. Shot Creating Actions per 90 have been 3.70 last two seasons (AEG is 2.50 and Trez is 2). Dribbles per 90 were 4.68 last season with 2.52 successful about the same as both Rashica and Jack. So just looking at the stats he looks a bit of a gamble. A poor last season where he was in and out of a team that under performed but a lot of promise before that (much like King). If he can find his form from 2 years ago, he could be a big hit. For the under £20m reported plus reasonable wages, he is probably worth a punt. Edited September 13, 2020 by MJ_1874 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 This player wouldn't be an alternative to Benrahma, plays on the opposite wing and can also play through the middle. If we're signing Rashica then that would more likely be the reason we're not trying to sign Benrahma. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ_1874 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, useless said: This player wouldn't be an alternative to Benrahma, plays on the opposite wing and can also play through the middle. If we're signing Rashica then that would more likely be the reason we're not trying to sign Benrahma. Rashica could have played on the right with Benrahma on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, MJ_1874 said: So just looking at the stats he looks a bit of a gamble. A poor last season where he was in and out of a team that under performed but a lot of promise before that (much like King). If he can find his form from 2 years ago, he could be a big hit. For the under £20m reported plus reasonable wages, he is probably worth a punt. Lyon are absolutely playing us for fools if they are demanding anywhere close to £20. This is a player who they are looking to ship out and whose market value is around £6-8M tops. Barcelona are reportedly planning to bid EUR 25M for Memphis Depay, another Lyon player - who is at a completely different level and has massive marketing appeal! Granted Memphis only has 1 year remaining on his contract. Edited September 13, 2020 by nepal_villan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ_1874 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, nepal_villan said: Lyon are absolutely playing us for fools if they are demanding anywhere close to £20. This is a player who they are looking to ship out and whose market value is around £6-8M tops. Barcelona are reportedly planning to bid EUR 25M for Memphis Depay - a different level of player with massive marketing appeal! Transfermkt is not accurate, it has Jack as being worth £30m or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randy_69 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 9 hours ago, MrSmirch said: I think the plan is to have one player from every country on the African continent. We’ll be absolutely f**ked when African nations starts again!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Sounds like this would be more an alternative to the purported King bid, a utility forward to potentially push out the likes of AEG/Trez/Jota in the squad, but surely on much lower wages and a few years younger than King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, MJ_1874 said: Transfermkt is not accurate, it has Jack as being worth £30m or something. I am speaking as a Lyon fan who has a good grasp on what players at the club are worth. 24 year-old Dutch International Kenny Tete just moved from Lyon to Fulham for EUR 3M. No way Traore is worth 6X that! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ_1874 Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, nepal_villan said: I am speaking as a Lyon fan who has a good grasp on what players at the club are worth. 24 year-old Dutch International Kenny Tete just moved from Lyon to Fulham for EUR 3M. No way Traore is worth 6X that! So you think Benrahma is worth £30m and King £20m? Players are worth what people will pay and clubs will sell for, there is no intrinsic value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 13, 2020 Haven’t seen a lot of this guy but don’t really rate him and nothing I’ve read about him particularly inspires confidence. Not a fan of this link. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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