Follyfoot Posted June 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) On 29/05/2023 at 21:18, AvfcRigo82 said: You can just tell Martinez is different. He wouldn't be going all over social media telling everyone he is trying to get as many of his world cup winning team mates to join Villa if he is intending to piss off 5 minutes later, would he? Something about Martinez is different to those other two serpents you mention. In all fairness, they said they wouldn’t invade the Falklands Edited June 1, 2023 by Follyfoot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted June 1, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Spoony said: UNO LARGO BEERO POR FOUR VORO, SEA (have to shout otherwise they don’t understand) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: In all fairness, they said they wouldn’t invade the Falklands They can have the Falklands.. but they can't have our Martinez. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 On 29/05/2023 at 21:18, AvfcRigo82 said: You can just tell Martinez is different. He wouldn't be going all over social media telling everyone he is trying to get as many of his world cup winning team mates to join Villa if he is intending to piss off 5 minutes later, would he? Something about Martinez is different to those other two serpents you mention. Still a naive view IMO. Martinez hasn't posted those quotes himself on social media. Of course he'd say those things and still be open to leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 3 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: They can have the Falklands.. but they can't have our Martinez. Would happily include them in his next contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 If a big offer was made and the club accepted then yes, Martinez would leave. Any player would. But he’s not about to force a move and it would take one hell of an offer for the club to accept it. So I think fans need to relax. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 27 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: If a big offer was made and the club accepted then yes, Martinez would leave. Any player would. But he’s not about to force a move and it would take one hell of an offer for the club to accept it. So I think fans need to relax. I think getting into Europe this year (and yes it is only the third category) was really important. Emi has a chance to play in a European club competition (and hopefully do well in it) next season - also gives us another season to hopefully perform on a similar level (or better) in the league / cups. If we are competing in the latter stages of these things it makes it much less likely that he will leave as (a) we can show that he can realise some of his club ambitions here and (b) the number of clubs who can offer him a better chance of doing so starts to reduce (I mean the links to Spurs pre end of the season we can basically ignore now). Of course I also thought that the green shoots might have been enough to keep Jack for one more season. But at least this time we've achieved everything (and some) that the new manager has promised so it's not quite so much "give us another season to prove we can do it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tom13 said: Still a naive view IMO. It really isn't. 43 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: If a big offer was made and the club accepted then yes, Martinez would leave. Any player would. If that happened, it would mean the club were trying force him out. Even if a big offer was made, I cannot see him wanting to leave. Edited June 2, 2023 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Lets face it, Spurs, Chelsea etc.. isn't a step up this year. Doubt he would return to Arsenal. Newcastle have Pope. City don't need him. So any move would be abroad - honestly don't think he'd want to leave when we've just achieved Europe. He's here next season for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 37 minutes ago, allani said: I think getting into Europe this year (and yes it is only the third category) was really important. Emi has a chance to play in a European club competition (and hopefully do well in it) next season - also gives us another season to hopefully perform on a similar level (or better) in the league / cups. If we are competing in the latter stages of these things it makes it much less likely that he will leave as (a) we can show that he can realise some of his club ambitions here and (b) the number of clubs who can offer him a better chance of doing so starts to reduce (I mean the links to Spurs pre end of the season we can basically ignore now). Of course I also thought that the green shoots might have been enough to keep Jack for one more season. But at least this time we've achieved everything (and some) that the new manager has promised so it's not quite so much "give us another season to prove we can do it". I'd say that the world cup win has helped massively too in that respect. It's career pinnacle stuff and could well have scratched that itch enough that he's not obsessed with the CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: It really isn't. If that happened, it would mean the club were trying force him out. Even if a big offer was made, I cannot see him wanting to leave. Not necessarily. Every player has his price. I personally think it’s naive to think he wouldn’t want to leave if a big club came in for him and made a substantial offer. But I don’t think it will happen anyway so we can all chill. Weren't you also adamant Jack was going nowhere or was that someone else? Edited June 2, 2023 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, lexicon said: I'd say that the world cup win has helped massively too in that respect. It's career pinnacle stuff and could well have scratched that itch enough that he's not obsessed with the CL. I would be reassured if we sign an Argentine international early in the window. I'd almost not care whether they would fit into the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, allani said: I would be reassured if we sign an Argentine international early in the window. I'd almost not care whether they would fit into the team. Foyth - kill two birds with one stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I personally think it’s naive to think he wouldn’t want to leave if a big club came in for him and made a substantial offer. Yes, like it's equally as naive thinking he would want to leave if some so-called big club were to approach for him, given what he has accomplished because of Villa. 23 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Weren't you also adamant Jack was going nowhere or was that someone else? Brilliant. I don't see what Joe Grealish has anything to do with a discussion about Martinez??? FYI, I think you're getting confused with RigoITK, I believe he's long gone though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Yes, like it's equally as naive thinking he would want to leave if some so-called big club were to approach for him, given what he has accomplished because of Villa. Brilliant. I don't see what Joe Grealish has anything to do with a discussion about Martinez??? FYI, I think you're getting confused with RigoITK, I believe he's long gone though. It was you wasn’t it? Dont jinx it for us again mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Dont jinx it for us again mate Can't help you mate. That's something you'll need to take up with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Yes, like it's equally as naive thinking he would want to leave if some so-called big club were to approach for him, given what he has accomplished because of Villa. Genuinely in disbelief at this view. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Genuinely in disbelief at this view. Each to their own mate. Personally, my view is he isn't going anywhere no matter what way it's dressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Each to their own mate. Personally, my view is he isn't going anywhere no matter what way it's dressed. Fair enough, all about opinions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 I find it mad that Emi is 30 and has 110 appearances (Wiki) for us, with his second most appearances coming for Argentina (28). That's a fairly fresh goalkeeper all things considered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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