WallisFrizz Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: That was really good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted March 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 8, 2022 Why do all English people say MARtinez instead of marTInez? The accent is right there to tell you how to pronounce it. They've always done it with Roberto also. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Fair play, Ben Foster comes across as a decent guy. Really nice interview that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 57 minutes ago, il_serpente said: Why do all English people say MARtinez instead of marTInez? The accent is right there to tell you how to pronounce it. They've always done it with Roberto also. Because we don't have those accents in English, and don't know how they work, so we just hope that it isn't too important and pretend they aren't there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdomlahor Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, il_serpente said: Why do all English people say MARtinez instead of marTInez? The accent is right there to tell you how to pronounce it. They've always done it with Roberto also. This winds me up as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, il_serpente said: Why do all English people say MARtinez instead of marTInez? The accent is right there to tell you how to pronounce it. They've always done it with Roberto also. I like this, thanks. In this regard, in case it ever comes up, you shouldn't pronounce the name TOLstoy, but rather, TolsTOY. Worth baring in mind the next time Tolstoy comes up in conversation, which I trust, being Villa fans, is a reasonable amount. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted March 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, il_serpente said: Why do all English people say MARtinez instead of marTInez? The accent is right there to tell you how to pronounce it. They've always done it with Roberto also. Because Martin is a name in English so you read that first then add the ez. We do not pronounce it Marteen. If we started to try and sound Spanish or whatever country a player came from we would end up being like Steve McClaren when he managed in Holland! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Davkaus said: Because we don't have those accents in English, and don't know how they work, so we just hope that it isn't too important and pretend they aren't there. It’s nothing to do with accents though just simple pronunciation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted March 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, S-Platt said: Because Martin is a name in English so you read that first then add the ez. We do not pronounce it Marteen. If we started to try and sound Spanish or whatever country a player came from we would end up being like Steve McClaren when he managed in Holland! I think there's a bit of a difference between affected attempts to sound like a native Spanish speaker (e.g., rolling the r hard) and just putting the accent on the right syllable using sounds that are common in English. It's not like there haven't been enough examples of the correct pronunciation available that people can't figure it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Farlz Posted March 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2022 Another one on Foster's main channel also 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaVilla Posted March 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2022 full 50min episode. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 What a lovely **** bloke emi is. Got time for foster n all to be fair. Nice few videos that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Give foster the motd job when linekar retires 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) Interesting that Emi said about Gerrard: He reminds me of Wenger, when Gerrard walks in you get that "wow" feeling, he has prescence, he has the respect of the players. Interestingly, he also said the assistant coach does all the talking, takes nearly all the meetings, does all the training sessions, does all the tactics, he knows so much about football. (talking about Beale). Also a very interesting observation, they were talking about younger players getting nervous as a game gets closer, and Emi said..."yeah, there was a player at Villa, who played amazing during covid...without the fans, but when the fans came back he wasnt as confident, hid from the ball and stuff, i said to him....stop hiding, get the ball and go forward". Interesting, wonder who that was. Emi M also said the south american group have a really close relationship, Emi, Emi 2, Coutinho and Luiz go bowling once a week etc. Edited March 9, 2022 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvonVillain Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Also a very interesting observation, they were talking about younger players getting nervous as a game gets closer, and Emi said..."yeah, there was a player at Villa, who played amazing during covid...without the fans, but when the fans came back he wasnt as confident, hid from the ball and stuff, i said to him....stop hiding, get the ball and go forward". Interesting, wonder who that was. Well it has to be Jacob Ramsey. It's amazing how much we savage these players, no matter their age or even their genuine brilliance as a more senior pro. An appreciation of just how tough this league is seems beyond most fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VBM Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, AvonVillain said: Well it has to be Jacob Ramsey. It's amazing how much we savage these players, no matter their age or even their genuine brilliance as a more senior pro. An appreciation of just how tough this league is seems beyond most fans. I assumed it was Targett? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 El ghazi I think struggled with the crowd on his back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Love the stuff he said about Stevie and the staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, AvonVillain said: Well it has to be Jacob Ramsey. It's amazing how much we savage these players, no matter their age or even their genuine brilliance as a more senior pro. An appreciation of just how tough this league is seems beyond most fans. If anything Ramsey has been better since fans have been back? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted March 9, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 08/03/2022 at 20:49, il_serpente said: Why do all English people say MARtinez instead of marTInez? The accent is right there to tell you how to pronounce it. They've always done it with Roberto also. Because it's our language, we invented it so we speak how we damn well please. Mainly loudly and slowly when dealing with forriners. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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