nick76 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: To be fair, after Jack, i'm not overly invested in anyone else at the club, to have any deep reaction/emotion if/when they decide to leave anymore. As long as we do GREAT business and continue to improve. The Board and Management have always had this in mind, hence the smart investments. Yeah after Jack, this is where I’m at. Less emotion for players individually and just focus on best for the team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted September 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, nick76 said: Yeah after Jack, this is where I’m at. Less emotion for players individually and just focus on best for the team. .....Until chuck starts it all again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Turns out our Club got it pretty much spot on. UTV!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, nick76 said: Ermmm Track and Trace?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) Seems the club keeps making us look like idiots to fair. Fair play to them, appears they tend to know what they are doing more than we do, who would have think it? So, whilst they may have privately asked them not to go, they were possibly also aware of the rules and possible penalties etc. The club's which held their players back can't use them anyway Edited September 8, 2021 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 hours ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: The Brazilian FA have triggered a rule so all those called up from the Prem but didnt go will now be banned for this weekend anyway. Whether or not Argentina would have done the same I dont know, but good chance we wouldnt have been able to play the Emi’s if they never went. Crazy It defies any sort of logic because surely the Brazilian players would have been in quarantine for 14 days, surely? Pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted September 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Seems the club keeps making us look like idiots to fair. Fair play to them, appears they tend to know what they are doing more than we do, who would have think it? So, whilst they may have privately asked them not to go, they were possibly also aware of the rules and possible penalties etc. The club's which helps their players can't use them anyway Not saying yourself but the panic patrol were looking to jump on the negativity bandwagon for any reason. The 5 day ban includes Tuesday Champions League games as well 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaacckk91 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Don't know where else to post this as there isn't a post but this seems to be the place. Brazil are drunk right? Complaining about calling up players and them not coming, and yet getting their police to arrest other teams players that have done the exact thing they wanted their players to do. You can't have it both ways, and it just makes a mockery or any argument they may have had(nevermind how weak that argument is) Unless I'm totally missing the point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 8, 2021 Moderator Share Posted September 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, jjaacckk91 said: Don't know where else to post this as there isn't a post but this seems to be the place. Brazil are drunk right? Complaining about calling up players and them not coming, and yet getting their police to arrest other teams players that have done the exact thing they wanted their players to do. You can't have it both ways, and it just makes a mockery or any argument they may have had(nevermind how weak that argument is) Unless I'm totally missing the point. I think you're missing the fact there is more than one body at work when refrering to 'Brazil'. It's their FA who wanted the players brought over and who now want the relevant Brazilian players banned from playing for their clubs. It's the Brazilian health service who got police to arrest COVID breachers. I don't think it even matters to the outcome that the Brazilian players would have needed to quarantine. The fact is they didn't get that chance, and rather perversely, that gives the Brazilian FA the grounds to ban them. Bizarre and tinpot. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 33 minutes ago, Zatman said: Not saying yourself but the panic patrol were looking to jump on the negativity bandwagon for any reason. Completely agree. Given how well the club seem to do on most topics, I still don’t understand why some fans jump to the negative straight away on anything new or the club “are soft” comments…given the history so far of these owners and management on the whole get most things right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted September 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, LondonLax said: Seems like Villa were one of the more proactive clubs on this, as usual. But they didn't lock the players in a dungeon to prevent them from going so we're actually a shambles with a soft underbelly. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Keyblade said: But they didn't lock the players in a dungeon to prevent them from going so we're actually a shambles with a soft underbelly. Was Julie on holiday? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StanBalaban Posted September 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 hours ago, PussEKatt said: As I said in the Martinez thread.We only have 2 options. 1 - Be a champions league club....or 2 - Make up the numbers. Given that our recent options were: 1 - Pay a moderate tax bill....or 2 - Go out of business OR 1 - Be a Premier League club...or 2- Get relegated again I think people forget how dramatically our options have improved. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, jjaacckk91 said: Don't know where else to post this as there isn't a post but this seems to be the place. Brazil are drunk right? Complaining about calling up players and them not coming, and yet getting their police to arrest other teams players that have done the exact thing they wanted their players to do. You can't have it both ways, and it just makes a mockery or any argument they may have had(nevermind how weak that argument is) Unless I'm totally missing the point. Honestly it kinda makes sense. Argentina shows up with their full strength squad. A squad that just recently defeated Brazil during the COPA this summer. Brazil calls all their PL players and none of them showed up. So they had a severely weakened squad going into a pivotal qualifier with a heated rival. How much you want to bet they purposely tanked that game. It's definitely a borderline conspiracy but wouldn't put it past the hilarity that is always occuring in North & South America football federations. Edited September 8, 2021 by Rightdm00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Not saying yourself but the panic patrol were looking to jump on the negativity bandwagon for any reason. The 5 day ban includes Tuesday Champions League games as well Yep, someone even posted that he should be relegated to a fictitious ‘bomb squad’ and shown the door ASAP, talk about over reacting (as per). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Apparently Richard Masters of PL is sorting it with fifa that those other players from PL clubs will be allowed to play at the weekend after all and everyone’s pissed off with us and Spurs for breaking ranks. Im quite happy for us to look after ourselves, I haven’t forgotten the Super League and I also remember in lockdown when it was being mooted that we would be relegated on ppg. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted September 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2021 I'm so confused by all this. As it stands, do we have a chance of the two Emi's starting on Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jareth said: I'm so confused by all this. As it stands, do we have a chance of the two Emi's starting on Saturday? No unfortunately because they went and now have to quarantine (in Croatia). Those who didn’t go for other clubs, no at the moment but some powers trying to change that. So if it does change we (Villa) get screwed for doing the rule abiding thing whereas those who went against the rules may get away with it. At the moment none play for any club. Edited September 8, 2021 by nick76 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 The confirmation bias is strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, est1874 said: The confirmation bias is strong. Not really. The facts here are pretty simple. Under normal circumstances, the players would have missed Chelsea anyway due to the game with Bolivia taking place the day before. So the club worked out a sensible solution with the relevant parties whereby our players could play in the first two matches, then fly home (or to Croatia, to be precise) following the Brazil game in order to quarantine and be available for Everton regardless. The farce in Brazil is not relevant to us other than as a side story. What has happened since, with the potential for 5 day banning orders, is either good planning or a happy coincidence. Either way, we got it right. You don't have to involve confirmation bias to see that the club did the right thing here, to protect both itself and it's players. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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