PieFacE Posted August 29, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2021 I think the compromise they've reached is absolutely fine! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cheltenham_villa Posted August 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2021 A fair compromise as others have said. Of course we would all love it if he'd chosen Villa but he was Argentinian before he joined us and he will be after he leaves. To block is counter productive and drives a wedge between player and country. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, HalfTimePost said: Some good news Yeah Purslow rang me up last night and totally agreed with my suggestion 24 hours ago. Don't blame me if we don't sign a DM though....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Its frustrating, but those are the rules right now. Who are we (as a club and a fanbase) to dictate whether our players represent their countries? As Mings said, they're proud to represent their nations so we should respect that. If we want world class players, and the exposure of having Argentina's #1 then this is a relatively small price to pay short term. It's not the players' fault the government is a joke. Be interesting on the government stance if/when England have to play in a red country... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, calcifer said: Did we have Steer in goal and Hause and Alex in defence? This is very much a possibility, I have had cracked ribs before and it took 4-5 weeks to fully recover!! So Mings will not be playing unless he is dosed up with painkillers.... Not many teams will be getting much at Chelsea. For all we know in normal times Emi might've picked up an injury on international duty. In the past we've lost 7-1 at Chelsea and finished 6th so really it's not a season defining game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmix Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) We need an emergency loan for Gabor Kiraly... Edited August 29, 2021 by Beastmix 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 29, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Beastmix said: We need an emergency loan for Gabor Kiraly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) @VillaChris seemingly called this compromise last night. Edited August 29, 2021 by Aston_Villan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Blame the government's rules. Simple. Elite sportspeople are tested regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 11 hours ago, Jas10 said: Really? ”looks like they are going to go anyway” looks like? Is that further “confirmation”? Just go back and look at your own comments and others? Overreactions aplenty. Sack them? GTFO Again, let’s see what happens… No one, including you, has any idea what is actually going on here. Where did you read “sack them”? Facebook? Because I certainly didn’t say it and I haven’t seen it in here. I don’t think it’s an overreaction to ask that our footballers consider the impact their actions have on the club that pays their way. I can sense you don’t think that’s a reasonable request? As it turns out, they are going and a reasonable compromise appears to have been reached. So I guess that’s the end of it. Bit too messy for my tastes, but pandemic life sucks all round so I’m used to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jas10 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: Where did you read “sack them”? Facebook? Because I certainly didn’t say it and I haven’t seen it in here. I don’t think it’s an overreaction to ask that our footballers consider the impact their actions have on the club that pays their way. I can sense you don’t think that’s a reasonable request? As it turns out, they are going and a reasonable compromise appears to have been reached. So I guess that’s the end of it. Bit too messy for my tastes, but pandemic life sucks all round so I’m used to it. As expected, some sort of compromise has been reached and hopefully the rules/restrictions will be reviewed/altered in the not too distant future. There were many ott comments here and certain people have acknowledged that and had the time to calm down. Maybe yours weren’t as reactionary as others but my responses were not aimed at one particular person. One of my points actually was that the players would still respect the club and take into account the impact it would have on us and that some sort of compromise or agreement would be made… which goes against the accusations about them that some people had made. Not sure why you sensed I didn’t feel or take that into account, oh well. I don’t go anywhere near FB btw, it’s known as one of the worst places for idiots and reactionary comments… It’s done, let’s move on. And yes, the pandemic has been terrible and hugely disruptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Well done to Ty for commenting and drawing a line under the matter too Proud to have him as our captain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Blame the government's rules. Simple. Elite sportspeople are tested regularly. Yep, we should be frustrated at the rules rather than laying into our own players… At least the matter is closed now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Yep, we should be frustrated at the rules rather than laying into our own players… At least the matter is closed now. I disagree. I think the fact the club released a statement and the club captain has come out to support them shows its an issue. I'm glad it's closed for now and I hope the rules change soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I disagree. I think the fact the club released a statement and the club captain has come out to support them shows its an issue. I'm glad it's closed for now and I hope the rules change soon. Let’s move on. Agree to disagree and whatnot. All I really want right now is to get our players fit and settled… I want to see how we do with our strongest team out there and they need some time to gel and get used to playing with each other. Again, it’s a transitional period for us. I’m curious to see how we will perform with our strongest side. I wonder if we can pull off the kinds of results and performances that we managed against the “big teams” last season. Seems like it’s going to be harder this time… We need to be more clinical/efficient against the smaller sides too. I really don’t think there should be any pressure from the fans… let’s just enjoy. I prefer to back and support our players, the two Emis are absolutely key for us. Edited August 29, 2021 by Jas10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 29, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) there's no way they're playing vs everton. martinez MAYBE but definitely not buendia. with special permission and if accompanied by hotel security they can have a little outdoor exercise but aside from that they're going to be sat in a hotel room for 10 days. they will almost certainly not be physically or even mentally ready for a PL match is what it is...i don't think our season will get going properly till nov/dec personally. just need to pick up a few points in the meantime so we're not too far adrift of top half Edited August 29, 2021 by tomav84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayEm Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 It's an annoying situation but I think the response to it from the club and the players is class. Martinez and Buendia are desperate to play for their countries but also respect the club enough to come to a compromise. Villa don't want them to go but respect their ambitions as individual footballers and Argentinians enough to seek out a compromise. And Tyrone Mings, honestly defining what it means to be a captain with his comment tonight. Weirdly even more proud to be a Villa fan after this somehow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, tomav84 said: there's no way they're playing vs everton. martinez MAYBE but definitely not buendia. with special permission and if accompanied by hotel security they can have a little outdoor exercise but aside from that they're going to be sat in a hotel room for 10 days. they will almost certainly not be physically or even mentally ready for a PL match is what it is...i don't think our season will get going properly till nov/dec personally. just need to pick up a few points in the meantime so we're not too far adrift of top half If i were a club like villa, i would be renting multiple rooms out at a local hotel, including function rooms, then setting up gym equipment, cardio equipment etc in the function rooms etc in advance of their return, so they can maintain a good level of fitness. Heck, i would probably rent out an entire floor if needed!, heck again!, i would probably rent out an entire hotel!, heck! heck! heck!, i would maybe even build a new hotel in a record timeframe so we can build an entire gym and fenced outside area to train! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jas10 said: Let’s move on. Agree to disagree and whatnot. All I really want right now is to get our players fit and settled… I want to see how we do with our strongest team out there and they need some time to gel and get used to playing with each other. Again, it’s a transitional period for us. I’m curious to see how we will perform with our strongest side. I wonder if we can pull off the kinds of results and performances that we managed against the “big teams” last season. Seems like it’s going to be harder this time… We need to be more clinical/efficient against the smaller sides too. I really don’t think there should be any pressure from the fans… let’s just enjoy. I prefer to back and support our players, the two Emis are absolutely key for us. I think this is why I find it so frustrating. The pre season was disrupted and we've had so many injuries and covid issues these first 3 games. And then to make things worse we have this. I absolutely back and support our players, but that definitely changes slightly towards players who demonstrate that this club isn't their priority. I can't help it and ultimately if they miss multiple games, it's going to to be difficult to not look at it once the season is over and think about the impact it might have had. I hope it doesn't have one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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