Genie Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Quote Chief Superintendent Steve Graham said victims appeared to be attacked at random, but there was "absolutely no suggestion" they were terror-related. I’d be interested to know what qualifies as terror then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted September 6, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Genie said: I’d be interested to know what qualifies as terror then. I guess terror is the use of violence to support a cause, blokes fighting with knives might be terrifying, but it's not terror. In fairness, we don't know what's happened here so far and there could be an element of some sort of cause or -ism about it, but at the moment the only eyewitness reports we have are about gangs of lads fighting outside a club. Also, fair play to the lady who works in one of those clubs for delivering her eyewitness statement in a bear onesie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I guess terror is the use of violence to support a cause, blokes fighting with knives might be terrifying, but it's not terror. In fairness, we don't know what's happened here so far and there could be an element of some sort of cause or -ism about it, but at the moment the only eyewitness reports we have are about gangs of lads fighting outside a club. Also, fair play to the lady who works in one of those clubs for delivering her eyewitness statement in a bear onesie. Yeah, I guess the police know exactly what caused it (gang violence i presume) but can’t confirm just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Victims 'chosen at random' doesn't make sense if it's gang-related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted September 6, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 6, 2020 Seems to be heading the other way now on reports - one man randomly stabbing people. Wait and see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Genie said: Yeah, I guess the police know exactly what caused it (gang violence i presume) but can’t confirm just yet. They are saying doesn’t appear gang related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 " Gammons"?........how pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Absolutely dreadful thing to happen in this great city of ours. I can only think it can be Terrorist attack?? Gang related?? Just some random lunatic?? Whichever it is the individual needs catching and catching quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, coda said: Victims 'chosen at random' doesn't make sense if it's gang-related. So much misinformation out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted September 6, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2020 26 minutes ago, ROTTERDAM1982 said: " Gammons"?........how pathetic I agree. They are. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, mjmooney said: I agree. They are. I like a nice bit of gammon with egg and chips. Pineapple can GTFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Eyewitness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Genie said: I’d be interested to know what qualifies as terror then. Random acts of violence aren't terrorism. The violence has to have a political point behind it, using the fear generated to send a message or promote a particular cause. Currently this doesn't have that. It's not at all clear what 'this' is - it could be gang violence, could be a lone nutter, could be terrorist in nature. We don't know. We won't know until more details come out. Even if this turns out to have been committed by the most Muslim man to ever have lived, that still doesn't mean this is terrorism - it's entirely possible for a Muslim man to become a spree killer and it not be terrorism, if there's no point or purpose to the violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable, so I'd take a single person's recollection of events with a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Quote There is no suggestion the attacks were a hate crime, terrorism or gang related, West Midlands Police says Quote A number of streets near Birmingham's Gay Village are cordoned off while forensics experts carry out searches Are the police hinting at homophobic attack? Bbc Edited September 6, 2020 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 6, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, Genie said: Are the police hinting at homophobic attack? No, they said it wasn't a hate crime 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 It’s pretty incredible that someone can wander around stabbing people in the UK’s second City and leave the scene without being caught/attacked/followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Nearly 2 hours walking round stabbing people Nuts that he could do it, does look completely random by one guy Same as always, not shocked by the instant outpouring of racism in relation to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Sounds like the big fight in Arcadian had nothing to do with it and was just part of a normal Saturday night in Brum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Sounds like the big fight in Arcadian had nothing to do with it and was just part of a normal Saturday night in Brum. Welcome to Birmingham 2020 Absolute hole. I've been working in the city centre for 23 years more or less and I hate the place now. Can't wait to get the train home after work. Hopefully i'll be there less and less now if we can work from home more. 18 hours later and no official Police description of the attacker or CCTV stills. I find this strange as Brum is chock full of cameras and there are plenty of eye witnesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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