AvfcRigo82 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) As many have stated already, I am not sure £20m on this lad would be a sensible signing imo. Obviously I will reserve judgment until all of our business is complete. Edited September 3, 2020 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 8 hours ago, nick76 said: That isn’t my job, that why we pay a lot of money to a recruitment team. Do you seriously, in your heart, believe that Callum Wilson is the best we could get? We have money for both fee and wages, we play in the premier league, we just don’t have a great reputation at the moment apart from our history but I seriously think there are better quality strikers out there than Callum Wilson that would come to the Villa and it’s our recruitment teams job to find them. I hope they do. The honest answer is I dont know. We avoided relegation on the last day of the season with a manager that is still learning at this level and our best player is being linked almost daily with a move away from the club. We also dont know what wages we are offering and what money we have to spend. Neither does any other villa fan. Have we actually bid for Wilson? I think there might be a lot of fans disappointed when the window shuts as this window will be solid but not spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Adam2003 said: Can’t you ask your nephew? I have to be careful, his time is valuable and he gets angry if I interrupt him too often especially as he’s just got his new battle pass on Fortnite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, MaVilla said: Vassilev isn't a striker. Damned straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, mykeyb said: I think there might be a lot of fans disappointed when the window shuts as this window will be solid but not spectacular. I don’t think people mind a solid window but some of the links wouldn’t make it solid it would be wasteful spending. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 If we land both Wilson and Watkins, our striking options will be much better than last season and will also allow for Wesley to recover properly without rushing him back too soon. I’d imagine we’ll offload Davis (and maybe Samatta) if it happens too having Wilson, Watkins, Wesley and Samatta to pick from is better than Wesley, Samatta, Davis and Vassilev we created many chances last season but never had an inform striker to take them (just when Wesley came into form he got Ben Mee’d ) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Yes, because they're all shit. It's easy not to sign shit players. Do that and we'll either be able to use them or teams will be banging down the door trying to give us money for them. Apart from a handful of freakish exceptions like Ali Dia and Aleksandar Tonev, there are no 'shit players' in the Premier League. It shouldn't come as a surprise that people are not being given an average annual wage or more every week because they are 'shit'. And it would still be the case that if it was somehow possible to rank every footballer in the world by 'least shitness', and every Premier League team between them bought the 500 least shit football players, 10 teams would still finish in the bottom half and three would be relegated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, theboyangel said: If we land both Wilson and Watkins, our striking options will be much better than last season and will also allow for Wesley to recover properly without rushing him back too soon. I’d imagine we’ll offload Davis (and maybe Samatta) if it happens too having Wilson, Watkins, Wesley and Samatta to pick from is better than Wesley, Samatta, Davis and Vassilev we created many chances last season but never had an inform striker to take them (just when Wesley came into form he got Ben Mee’d ) Vassilev isn't a striker?? Why do a load of people think hes a striker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Vassilev isn't a striker?? Why do a load of people think hes a striker? Probably because when we were desperate, Smith played him there. I know, I know....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentMajority Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) Its very hard to judge him without a 'highlights' video...... or.... if there is no such thing.... time to panic! Edited September 3, 2020 by SilentMajority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 29 minutes ago, MaVilla said: Vassilev isn't a striker?? Why do a load of people think hes a striker? We all know he’s not a striker but he was deployed as a striker several times because there was no one else. he’s never been selected to play as a winger or AM. bringing in reinforcements will allow us to use Vassilev in his preferred position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 9 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Patson Daka looks incredible. Problem is, aren;t bigger clubs after some of those mentioned above? They are but the Salzburg guys usually have release clauses in their contracts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 hour ago, nick76 said: I don’t think people mind a solid window but some of the links wouldn’t make it solid it would be wasteful spending. Links are one thing, signings is what we should judge the club on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Just now, mykeyb said: Links are one thing, signings is what we should judge the club on. I agree but today’s first signing has taken a while so we’ve had 6 weeks of only links with the season starting in just over a week. Just makes things a little nervous. Plus once we’ve signed somebody I get behind them (mostly) but I have opinion before we sign somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 2 hours ago, MaVilla said: having Wilson, Watkins, Wesley and Samatta to pick from is better than Wesley, Samatta, Davis and Vassilev And Watkins can definitely play wide as well as up front - I think Wesley probably can as well - so while they would all be competing for the ‘number 9 shirt’ as sole striker, that would give us more flexibility across the front three. Might also explain (if it’s happening) why we don’t seem to be chasing any new wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Yes, because they're all shit. It's easy not to sign shit players. Do that and we'll either be able to use them or teams will be banging down the door trying to give us money for them. Come on now Tom, Hogan wasn't s*** when we signed him but SB was too lazy to actually watch how he'd scored the 20 + goals at Brentford and just hit long balls up to him and so his confidence massively dropped quickly. And Kodj was very effective in 16/17. We were a mid table championship side when we signed both. Edited September 3, 2020 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Morkery said: He wouldn't be my choice, but if he scores even twelve goals, we probably stay up - so would justify fee/wages. His ratio last season in the league was a goal every five games. He scored 7 in 35. So he'll need to step up his level to get from 7 up to 12. So his ratio is about the same as Wesley's, who scored 5 goals in about 20 league games. The trouble with Wesley last season was when he had that horrible run of ten league games in a row without scoring, let's hope that doesn't reoccur with our main striker next season ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkVillan Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Adam2003 said: And Watkins can definitely play wide as well as up front - I think Wesley probably can as well - so while they would all be competing for the ‘number 9 shirt’ as sole striker, that would give us more flexibility across the front three. Might also explain (if it’s happening) why we don’t seem to be chasing any new wingers. I think you are right. Cash signing supports idea of 2 raiding modern full backs so could have 3 mobile strikers up front. All 3 seem happy to press and run channels so could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, robby b said: His ratio last season in the league was a goal every five games. He scored 7 in 35. So he'll need to step up his level to get from 7 up to 12. So his ratio is about the same as Wesley's, who scored 5 goals in about 20 league games. The trouble with Wesley last season was when he had that horrible run of ten league games in a row without scoring, let's hope that doesn't reoccur with our main striker next season ! Wesley stats are further skewed because he got 2 against Norwich reserves. I think we need to realise that Wesley was a massively overpriced poor player - who has never scored goals in any great number anywhere in his career. Onto CW he'd be an upgrade on Wesley - but I think the whole thing is being used as leverage to get Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 3, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, hippo said: Wesley stats are further skewed because he got 2 against Norwich reserves. Such a bullshit argument 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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