roger_moore Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 OK John - no probs, ha ha goodnight Nick 'old chap':) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa1968 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I like to use villainians or villaphrodites myself. I'm no more a Villan than a villain, I'm an Aston Villa supporter. I can understand why someone would call a Villa supporter a Villain, it's a simple play on words. It isn't anything like calling a Villa fan a paedo, it just isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenz Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 People calling Martin O'Neill British pisses me off more. He's Irish, people could at least give him the couteousy of getting his nationality right. Villain is annoying too but I don't see it that ofter to be honest. Q'est ce-que c'est? Last time I checked N.Ireland was part of the British Isles.... Makes him British in my book. Can see where you're coming from though :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.Smalljob Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 But I hope we are Villains against Everton and steal all 3 points ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Villan Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 But I hope we are Villains against Everton and steal all 3 points ! Not me, but I hope the Villans are heroes and get the three points anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Used to be Villains in the Sixties and Seventies when we had the cartoon character in the Argus that looked like a Bonfire Night character. Maybe someone can google or copy a piccie of him. My recollection is that they used to call him "Villa'n"? So they were sitting on the fence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSufferingVilla Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 We can spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 People calling Martin O'Neill British pisses me off more. He's Irish, people could at least give him the couteousy of getting his nationality right. Villain is annoying too but I don't see it that ofter to be honest. Q'est ce-que c'est? Last time I checked N.Ireland was part of the British Isles.... Makes him British in my book. Can see where you're coming from though :winkold: I always thought it was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenz Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Aah, you may be right there Ponky..... I'll get my coat :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Really gets to me also when folks call it villians, for me it shows a lack of knowledge for our club. You know our nickname was "villains" before it was ever "Villans", right? I assume "villians" was a typo, as I've never seen anyone intentionally call us that Calling us "Villans" is pretty much the same as calling the Witton Lane stand the Do*g Ell*s. I shall continue on my merry way, my apologies if it offends your sense of personal identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrogers Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Not according to Wiki, and not as long I have been a Villan have we ever been called Villains, apart from people that don't know better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I'm fairly certain we were Villains for about 100 years before Ellis thought people might confuse us with a group of gangsters. I'll be sure to dig through my programme collection when I get home from work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Can't find any real source from Googling, but as it just assumes Villans is a misspelling that's not entirely surprising. It would be a bit odd for a fanzine (H&V) to get such basic information wrong though, wouldn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 People calling Martin O'Neill British pisses me off more. He's Irish, people could at least give him the couteousy of getting his nationality right. Villain is annoying too but I don't see it that ofter to be honest. Q'est ce-que c'est? Last time I checked N.Ireland was part of the British Isles.... Makes him British in my book. Can see where you're coming from though :winkold: I always thought it was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland so...Indeed it is. Great Britain is only our little island. However, being British extends to a fair bit further than just Great Britain. People from Northern Ireland are definitely British, as are those on the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted April 23, 2008 Moderator Share Posted April 23, 2008 This is something that has been bugging me for a while, people calling us Villains, we are NOT criminals. We are Villans... people on this and other boards spelling it wrong is bad, but even **** Sky and BBC are getting it wrong. Sort it out people. WE ARE VILLANS! Well said Nick, its been pissing me off for a while. And while we are on this subject will people stop calling the game against Blues a Derby!!!!!! Its not a Derby its a derby, we played Derby the week before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 People calling Martin O'Neill British pisses me off more. He's Irish, people could at least give him the couteousy of getting his nationality right. Villain is annoying too but I don't see it that ofter to be honest. Q'est ce-que c'est? Last time I checked N.Ireland was part of the British Isles.... Makes him British in my book. Can see where you're coming from though :winkold: No Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom. Britain consists of England Scotland and Wales. Ireland Consists of the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. Also the Good Friday Agreement states that any Northern Irish person can choose to be considered Irish or British. He's Irish, most of Derry are Irish. Also the island of Ireland is part of the British Isles, that make me British ? So endeth the lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimgriff Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 People calling Martin O'Neill British pisses me off more. He's Irish, people could at least give him the couteousy of getting his nationality right. Villain is annoying too but I don't see it that ofter to be honest. Q'est ce-que c'est? Last time I checked N.Ireland was part of the British Isles.... Makes him British in my book. Can see where you're coming from though :winkold: I always thought it was the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland so...Indeed it is. Great Britain is only our little island. However, being British extends to a fair bit further than just Great Britain. People from Northern Ireland are definitely British, as are those on the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands. Wrong.... People from Northern Ireland are either 'British' or Irish. Enshrined in the Good Friday Agreement is the fact that people from Northern Ireland have the right to self-define as regards their own nationality, and this for obvious reasons tends to fall along the lines of Catholic=Irish, Protestant=British. A 'Northern Irish' (ie born in Northern Ireland) person today has the automatic right to choose whether to have an Irish or UK passport, and thus choose their own citizenship (nb they would be citizens of the UK anyway, not British). They have always had the right to opt out of British citzenship and take Irish, but now there is no deafult and one must opt-in to whichever they want. Martin O'Neill is Catholic. However, he used to play for Northern Ireland, and I personally haven't seen his passport or heard him speak on the matter. Therefore I don't know whether he would class himself as being from the UK or Irish, but he is definitely not 'British' per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrissmith921 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Used to be Villains... It's never been Villains All Supporter clubs receive packs each year with member cards etc - and they (until this year) have always read 'Villains'. Now they are 'Lions'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Aah, you may be right there Ponky..... I'll get my coat :oops: You Villain. I'd love to see people tell my Housmate Ultan from Derry that he's British Anyway enough on the Northern Ireland British or Irish debate....I have to go to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimJim Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Agreed on the Villan front. I went on a stag do recently to 'The Dam' and on the back of my tour shirt I had VILLAN. Sadly at best I got bemused looks and not one fellow Villan stopped me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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