Made In Aston Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, nick76 said: Keeps the opposition on their toes of who will play tomorrow. It makes Brentford’s planning harder because they don’t know how or who we will be starting tomorrow. Last season we were too predictable that teams could prepare all week knowing our likely team and formation. This doesn't make any sense as we were coy on injuries last season and were as predictable as you say. With a stronger squad we become less predictable due to personnel and tactical options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Made In Aston said: This doesn't make any sense as we were coy on injuries last season and were as predictable as you say. Of course it makes sense, we short on numbers when fully fit and generally played the same XI in the same way and if anybody got injured we played the same way with a different player. We were one dimensional. 1 hour ago, Made In Aston said: With a stronger squad we become less predictable due to personnel and tactical options. You are agreeing with me as your initial comment said my comment didn’t make sense but then you agree with everything I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Mantis said: I wonder if he would've played some of these games while not fully fit if we didn't have Ings? ....we will never know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 19 hours ago, nick76 said: Of course it makes sense, we short on numbers when fully fit and generally played the same XI in the same way and if anybody got injured we played the same way with a different player. We were one dimensional. You are agreeing with me as your initial comment said my comment didn’t make sense but then you agree with everything I said. I was disagreeing with your statement that being coy with injuries in the press would make us less predictable this season. However, I do agree that we need more options, in terms of squad depth, as we were too one dimensional last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 We're a completely different prospect when he's on the pitch. They did not know what to do with him. Delighted to finally see him in the flesh, he is the one player in our team at the moment I know we can rely on. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exeter Fan Too Posted August 29, 2021 Visiting Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2021 I see that his place in the England squad has gone to ..erm... Patrick Bamford. Some people in Leeds will be pleased. Great that he's back, if only for ten minutes. Missing the internationals can mean concentrating on being fully fit for the Premiership in a fortnight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eholm Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 8 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: We're a completely different prospect when he's on the pitch. They did not know what to do with him. Delighted to finally see him in the flesh, he is the one player in our team at the moment I know we can rely on. This. He completely changes the attacking dynamic of the team. Stretches, unsettles and bullies defenders. Top, top PL CF and now our most important player in the final third. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Exeter Fan Too said: I see that his place in the England squad has gone to ..erm... Patrick Bamford. Some people in Leeds will be pleased. Great that he's back, if only for ten minutes. Missing the internationals can mean concentrating on being fully fit for the Premiership in a fortnight. Remember when those Leeds fans were chanting Bamford's name whenever Ollie touched it in the Euros warm-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 On 27/08/2021 at 14:46, Made In Aston said: This doesn't make any sense as we were coy on injuries last season and were as predictable as you say. With a stronger squad we become less predictable due to personnel and tactical options. To be honest, even with a fully fit squad it didn't usually take a lot of reasoning to figure out how we would line up last season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TreeVillan Posted August 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2021 We just play so much better with Ollie, I think we would have got the win if he had started the game. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Been going off topic in the Smith thread so let's take it here. I'm not saying Watkins will make no difference for us but what we need is creativity, and Watkins won't help much with that. Watkins like most strikers is reliant on service. I remember he was feeding on absolute scraps when Grealish was injured. And Ings is the same now. Barely getting any chances. In that sense Bailey is the player we are the most desperate for to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Needs to be one of the first names on the teamsheet, he's so important for us, gives us a whole different dimension 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Been going off topic in the Smith thread so let's take it here. I'm not saying Watkins will make no difference for us but what we need is creativity, and Watkins won't help much with that. Watkins like most strikers is reliant on service. I remember he was feeding on absolute scraps when Grealish was injured. And Ings is the same now. Barely getting any chances. In that sense Bailey is the player we are the most desperate for to come back. Have you not watched Watkins play at all, I myself am almost sure he creates. It's different when he's the last man up front he shouldn't be looking to create, he should be looking at getting a goal and bypassing defences. It's different then when he's coming back into midfield he does create, he's also so tough to get off the ball and he does pass it on smartly, you could see that against brentford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave-R said: Have you not watched Watkins play at all, I myself am almost sure he creates. It's different when he's the last man up front he shouldn't be looking to create, he should be looking at getting a goal and bypassing defences. It's different then when he's coming back into midfield he does create, he's also so tough to get off the ball and he does pass it on smartly, you could see that against brentford. Have you forgotten how the whole team struggled without Grealish last season? Watkins and Ings need service they ain't playmakers. Really hope you are right but I can't see Watkins being back will result in us suddenly creating lots of chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Have you forgotten how the whole team struggled without Grealish last season? Watkins and Ings need service they ain't playmakers. Really hope you are right but I can't see Watkins being back will result in us suddenly creating lots of chances. We didn't struggle every game last season without Grealish. Also it was a test for them to learn to play without Grealish, despite some losses, Draws. They did rather well it's just some officiating and Var decisions also made those losses seem like they were just losses and that was it. Now sure Creativity is welcomed but we've brought in Buendia and Bailey and it will be there once everyone is fully fit again. Sure if I had the choice I'd bring another creative player in as well as a defensive midfielder, I just don't think it will happen now unfortunately. I do see your point but I also think there are other things being overlooked here than simply saying Watkins isn't creative enough or that we arnt creative enough without Grealish. We will be fine till January. Edited August 30, 2021 by Dave-R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 On 29/08/2021 at 09:23, Tomaszk said: Remember when those Leeds fans were chanting Bamford's name whenever Ollie touched it in the Euros warm-up. Must have made up Southgate’s mind haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Dave-R said: Have you not watched Watkins play at all, I myself am almost sure he creates. It's different when he's the last man up front he shouldn't be looking to create, he should be looking at getting a goal and bypassing defences. It's different then when he's coming back into midfield he does create, he's also so tough to get off the ball and he does pass it on smartly, you could see that against brentford. I'd argue, he created a chunk of his goals last season, by himself! With some help, I expect him to be even better, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) The amount of space he will have is scary because the defenders will be occupied with tracking Ings movement, and then Watkins causing havoc with diagonal runs behind, can't wait , then add Bailey's pace + Buendia's creativity, we're looking good I don't know how Smith is gonna find the balance, but with those 4 as our attacking threat is super exciting. Edited August 30, 2021 by AVFCforever1991 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, AVFCforever1991 said: The amount of space he will have is scary because the defenders will be occupied with tracking Ings movement, and then Watkins causing havoc with diagonal runs behind, can't wait , then add Bailey's pace + Buendia's creativity, we're looking good I don't know how Smith is gonna find the balance, but with those 4 as our attacking threat is super exciting. Ings Watkins Bailey McGinn Buendia Luiz Edited August 30, 2021 by MWARLEY2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Salad Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 With the pace and endurance he has Ollie frustrates defenders without being over the top creative. He is a very important cog in our machine if you will and can't wait to see him in action again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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