Popular Post villabromsgrove Posted August 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2020 If we're comparing Abraham and Watkins in the Championship then the following stats might be useful. Abraham 26 goals from 94 shots 4 assists pass completion rate 70% Watkins 26 goals from 86 shots 4 assists pass completion rate 75% Having watched both players regularly my honest opinion is that Watkin's all round game which includes a bigger engine and greater pace, makes him a slightly better option for what we need in this Villa "Team". I'm not knocking Tammy, because he also would be a fantastic but much more expensive addition. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 I don't see Watkins as a risky buy, when he's clearly an improvement on the goal shy strikers that we currently have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 20 hours ago, lexicon said: Ah yes Kylian Mbappe, well known for standing around lethargically waiting for the game to come to him You got my point soo pffft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, MaVilla said: I agree we need to he careful, we have been bitten by players that flatter to decieve more than most. But also there are clearly players in the lower leagues who can step up to the prem. We just have to hope we find those players now, and not the former. I agree. and its an expensive trait to have.....hope we are more prudent, moving forward. I think its the leagues we buy in....deceive us.......but Brentford, seem to be a club, very adept at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: If we're comparing Abraham and Watkins in the Championship then the following stats might be useful. Abraham 26 goals from 94 shots 4 assists pass completion rate 70% Watkins 26 goals from 86 shots 4 assists pass completion rate 75% Having watched both players regularly my honest opinion is that Watkin's all round game which includes a bigger engine and greater pace, makes him a slightly better option for what we need in this Villa "Team". I'm not knocking Tammy, because he also would be a fantastic but much more expensive addition. Interesting comparison, thanks. Only caveat would be that Tammy Abraham was 20/21 and Watkins was 23/24. Does it mean Watkins can step up to the Prem? Probably, yes IMO. Most strikers with that kind of goal record in the Championship do turn out to be useful Prem players, especially if they're still young when they hit form in the Championship. I'd say Watkins would be a 10-15 goal a season striker in the Premier League looking at how that Championship record normally converts (Mitrovic, Pukki, Chris Wood, Abraham, etc). Factor in his all-round game, his age being the right side of 25, and other attacking options in the squad, and it looks like a sensible buy if Brentford don't drive the price up too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 None of Watkin’s goals were penalties either right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Woody1000 said: None of Watkin’s goals were penalties either right? No, think Benrahma took those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) Fair play then 1 minute ago, jacketspuds said: No, think Benrahma took those. Edited August 9, 2020 by Woody1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentfordnylons Posted August 9, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Woody1000 said: None of Watkin’s goals were penalties either right? Correct,with the right support Watkins will get plenty of goals in the PL 25 mill is good value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Have we actually bid for him yet? Is there any evidence we’ve enquired about him yet? Is there anything yet apart some rumours and assumptions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, nick76 said: Have we actually bid for him yet? Is there any evidence we’ve enquired about him yet? Is there anything yet apart some rumours and assumptions? Nothing other than the story from Percy who seems to be held in high regard on here. Edited August 9, 2020 by av1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, av1 said: Nothing other than the story from Percy who seems to be held in high regard on here. Amazing how we’ve got to 29 pages based on a tweet from an average (better than many I agree) journalist then. It’ll be interesting to see in hindsight if there is anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Amazing how we’ve got to 29 pages based on a tweet from an average (better than many I agree) journalist then. It’ll be interesting to see in hindsight if there is anything. We’v got 2 pages and counting on Benrahma. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted August 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: Amazing how we’ve got to 29 pages based on a tweet from an average (better than many I agree) journalist then. It’ll be interesting to see in hindsight if there is anything. We've got 400 flipping pages in the Transfer thread and haven't signed anyone yet! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: We’v got 2 pages and counting on Benrahma. + the 38 pages in the other Benrahma thread 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 and I reckon we’ve all read each and every page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 5 hours ago, villabromsgrove said: I don't see Watkins as a risky buy, when he's clearly an improvement on the goal shy strikers that we currently have. Is he enough of an improvement though? Let's pretend we only had Davis and Samatta as strikers and we were to buy Wesley (for the same fee we payed) as an improvement, which he would be. Would that be money well spent? This is where I think the concern is, and I would say it's justified 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 50 minutes ago, WooJung said: Is he enough of an improvement though? Let's pretend we only had Davis and Samatta as strikers and we were to buy Wesley (for the same fee we payed) as an improvement, which he would be. Would that be money well spent? This is where I think the concern is, and I would say it's justified Completely agree. If he’s brought in along with a top notch striker I think it’s great but just on his own I have concerns because it’s too much risk. Not that Watkins is a risk but is he better than what we have or even much improvement on what we have, that’s the risk. Wes is that player for us and we already have him. He could be excellent next season but he may not. We can’t have two with that level of risk and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 25m? Wheres that come from? I thought he had an 18m release clause which is the most I thought he'd be worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Brentfordnylons said: Correct,with the right support Watkins will get plenty of goals in the PL 25 mill is good value. Hey, I feel shit for you. I can’t imagine how you all feel after this season, coming so close. I hope you do it next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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