Keyblade Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Our strikers are not missing tap ins, we don’t create chances like that. Because we don't have strikers that are getting into those positions. It's our wingers and midfielders who get most of the chances. We already saw what it's like to have Abraham in a Villa side that's creating chances. He never scored any goals outside the box, but he was still excellent. Edited August 5, 2020 by Keyblade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post romavillan Posted August 5, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Our strikers are not missing tap ins, we don’t create chances like that. Davis and AEG did in the last few games alone. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, KAZZAM said: Its a pass from on anything over 18 mill. Spot on. Paying above £ 20 million is just bad management of the club. Edited August 5, 2020 by KenjiOgiwara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 5, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 5, 2020 54 minutes ago, dudevillaisnice said: Noticed Percy now states £25m.. removed the clause now. Don’t think I’d want us to pay that for him. Giving a Championship club circa £50m for two players would be sickening. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Our strikers are not missing tap ins, we don’t create chances like that. I can think of at least 4 absolute sitters missed by AEG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: Don’t think I’d want us to pay that for him. Giving a Championship club circa £50m for two players would be sickening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 5, 2020 £25m would be utter, utter madness. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, Chindie said: £25m would be utter, utter madness. We paid almost that much for an unproven 22 year old from the Belgian league. It's probably a bit on the expensive side (20m seems about right), but I wouldn't call it utter madness. Seems to be around the going rate for exceptional Championship players these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just now, Keyblade said: We paid almost that much for an unproven 22 year old from the Belgian league. And that was madness and has shown itself to be some of the worst business this club has ever conducted, along with the likes of Bosko Balaban. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Would rather get the player he will be replaced with personally in Florian Balgoun and try and get Edouard ... That’s just me though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I have said on many occasions that I don't watch hardly any football that doesn't involve ourselves, so this probably won't come as a surprise to many, but for some reason I thought Watkins was a little blonde kid. I was at least 30 seconds into the YouTube video before realising that I'm a complete tool. Note to VT members - just ignore anything I post about other teams players because the chances are we aren't even talking about the same person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Leading goal scorers in the championship over the last ten seasons have been... Nicky Maynard, Danny Graham, Rickie Lambert, Glenn Murray, Ross McCormack, Daryl Murphy, Andre Gray, Chris Wood, Matej Vydra, Teemu Pukki, and Mitrovic... None of them have really been all that impressive at premier league level, Mitrovic gets talked about a lot but his record the last time Fulham were in the premier league wasn't much better than Wesley's, you could say the same for Maupay and Gayle as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Chindie said: £25m would be utter, utter madness. As you may have guessed from my post above, I haven't watched Watkins play so this isn't an endorsement of him, or a pop at you pal. But I have seen posters on here suggesting we bid £30m for the boy at Celtic, and I think that SPL is probably a lower grade of competition than the championship. It sounds like a staggering amount of money but I wonder if it's simply "the going rate" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: And that was madness and has shown itself to be some of the worst business this club has ever conducted, along with the likes of Bosko Balaban. Not even close, he still has resale value, even after a serious injury. Just in the past few years alone we've had Ross McCormack, Aaron Tshibola, Micah Richards etc. Besides, the fee was hiked up to facilitate a work permit. Point is, it seems to be the going rate for young strikers right now. Neal Maupay went for around 20m with less time on his contract, with an almost identical scoring record that season to Watkins' this season. I think 20m is a fair price, but an extra 5 million isn't exactly outrageous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, useless said: Leading goal scorers in the championship over the last ten seasons have been... Nicky Maynard, Danny Graham, Rickie Lambert, Glenn Murray, Ross McCormack, Daryl Murphy, Andre Gray, Chris Wood, Matej Vydra, Teemu Pukki, and Mitrovic... None of them have really been all that impressive at premier league level, Mitrovic gets talked about a lot but his record the last time Fulham were in the premier league wasn't much better than Wesley's, you could say the same for Maupay and Gayle as well. We should sign Glenn Murray he could still do a job for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 5, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 5, 2020 Scott Hogan got 7 in 17 for Small Heath... and he scored 14 in 25 for Brentford before we bought him. Olly Watkins got 25 in 46 for Brentford.... We gave them £12m for Hogan and people are in a rush to hand over £25m for Watkins. Im not making any sort of comparison between the two players, their ability, qualities etc just highlighting the similarity in the numbers. Have to say I’d be very very nervous handing them another £25m for Watkins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: Scott Hogan got 7 in 17 for Small Heath... and he scored 14 in 25 for Brentford before we bought him. Olly Watkins got 25 in 46 for Brentford.... We gave them £12m for Hogan and people are in a rush to hand over £25m for Watkins. Im not making any sort of comparison between the two players, their ability, qualities etc just highlighting the similarity in the numbers. Have to say I’d be very very nervous handing them another £25m for Watkins. Oh you were talking about Hogan and Konsa fees combined!? Edited August 5, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 5, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Oh you were talking about Hogan and Konsa fees combined!? Sorry I don’t follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 1 minute ago, TrentVilla said: Scott Hogan got 7 in 17 for Small Heath... and he scored 14 in 25 for Brentford before we bought him. Olly Watkins got 25 in 46 for Brentford.... We gave them £12m for Hogan and people are in a rush to hand over £25m for Watkins. Im not making any sort of comparison between the two players, their ability, qualities etc just highlighting the similarity in the numbers. Have to say I’d be very very nervous handing them another £25m for Watkins. Hogan was always a weak, fox in the box type player with nothing going for him apart from his finishing. Can't hold up the ball, can't dribble, terrible first touch etc. For anybody who did their homework beyond "ooh he's on a purple patch, let's sign him!" would probably sus out that he can't really make a step up. Watkins has been highly rated for years now and done his due diligence and has a lot more to his game than just scoring. Plus Dean Smith would know him very well and would have an idea of whether or not he could make the step up (similar to Konsa). If we are actually in for him I'd be much more confident of handing Brentford the money for Watkins than when we did for Hogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Not even close Name me 10 worse value for money signings. In fact, name me 5. The example of Wes is hilarious cause he's a horrible piece of business by this club and has been absolutely shocking for his Villa career so far. Should we venture back to the general consensus in the Wesley thread 6-12 months ago? Swear the longer players are injured on this forum the better they get. Edited August 5, 2020 by KenjiOgiwara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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