Xela Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: We knew this anyway but we have some seriously talented young lads. This model of hoovering up the best local kids and signing some of countries best youngsters is really going to pay dividends over the next few seasons. Really exciting times. Exactly. We can't challenge City or Chelsea at first team level yet, as they're years ahead of us, but what we can do is become the best place for young players to develop. Sure, they won't all make it and some will move on like Jack no doubt, but we could earn huge money out of it as well to invest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted August 24, 2021 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 Remember me banging on about what was happening in the academy about a year ago? Well everyone can see it now. No guarantee's of anything and talk of the United class of 92 is a little crazy but there is something special happening at the Villa academy. Investment in signings, in coaching, in player development, in loan management, in staff recruitment, in facilities, in grass roots scouting.... it goes on and on and on. The foundations being put in place by Mark Harrison and those who enable him to carry out his work and indeed those who work for him is creating a bedrock for years to come. It isn't just the quality of the youth players at the club it is the depth of that quality, it is mouth watering. Just think how many promising forwards we have.... Barry, Young, Shakpoke, Archer... there are 3 or 4 more others behind them. We've shown in the last 12 months we've the ability to go and sign highly talented and sort after youth players, we've both the financial power to do it and it seems real strength in our sell to players and their families/representatives. That last point shouldn't be overlooked, we really sell the club to young players and you can bet the amount of first team football exposure these lads are getting will be part of our pitch. People in the game will be talking about our ambitions at academy level and you can bet young players are going to be increasingly keen to join us. Truly excited about what is happening in this aspect of the club. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Immense group of young players that just seem to collectively be getting better and better. It may be that we barely need to make any big signings over the next few years, as well as having an unreal crop of players coming through it’ll also make us almost entirely self-sustainable. Please McGrath, make it so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Don't think anyone has posted this yet. Looks like Leon Bailey's stepfather's academy is in the UK and played the Villa academy side. Here are the highlights and Bailey himself gave them the halftime talk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 24, 2021 Moderator Share Posted August 24, 2021 These lads were sitting the row in front of my in the Upper Trinity Road v Newcastle on Saturday, nice lads and they were so excited to be at Villa Park. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 45 minutes ago, KMitch said: Don't think anyone has posted this yet. Looks like Leon Bailey's stepfather's academy is in the UK and played the Villa academy side. Here are the highlights and Bailey himself gave them the halftime talk. Hopefully a link can between the 2 can be made, there is clearly some talent there. Not sure what the story with work permits would be though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 But of a strange one this link up. Wonder how its going down with the rest of the staff and players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 another proud night for the academy tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Adman said: But of a strange one this link up. Wonder how its going down with the rest of the staff and players. If we get the chance to take the cream of their talent on then its all good. Jamaicans are the fastest people on the planet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Definitely the most exciting group of prospects we've had for well over a decade. Mike Lubb aside we haven't produced anyone remotely good in the past 10 years or so. Andre Green is the only other one I can think of who actually broke into the first team for us, and even then it wasn't for that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 2 hours ago, TrentVilla said: Remember me banging on about what was happening in the academy about a year ago? Well everyone can see it now. Investment in signings, in coaching, in player development, in loan management, in staff recruitment, in facilities, in grass roots scouting.... it goes on and on and on. The foundations being put in place by Mark Harrison and those who enable him to carry out his work and indeed those who work for him is creating a bedrock for years to come Truly excited about what is happening in this aspect of the club. Totally agree. And the one thing i took out of Purslows video message was when he said that our young players really are our future. We used to be proud of our set up under McAndrew but this is light years ahead now. The one thing that gets me is how many baggies players we are taking off them. Its like virtually all of the midlands talent has been developing there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, MWARLEY2 said: Totally agree. And the one thing i took out of Purslows video message was when he said that our young players really are our future. We used to be proud of our set up under McAndrew but this is light years ahead now. The one thing that gets me is how many baggies players we are taking off them. Its like virtually all of the midlands talent has been developing there. Edited August 25, 2021 by Dave-R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 I'm curious to see how we manage Academy talent that are late bloomers. Not all top talents are ready to break into a Premier League side (especially one that aspires to be Top 6) at age 19 or 20. Most will be ready at age 23 or 24. Will we be loaning them out for 4-5 years until they fully mature? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Mantis said: Definitely the most exciting group of prospects we've had for well over a decade. Mike Lubb aside we haven't produced anyone remotely good in the past 10 years or so. Andre Green is the only other one I can think of who actually broke into the first team for us, and even then it wasn't for that long. Albrighton won the league! Maybe not the level we all want to bring people through at but Ciaran Clark is a regular premier League player. Callum Robinson had some nice goals Vs Chelsea in the Prem last year but now in the Championship. Bannan, Weimann, O'Hare, Gardner, Baker, Hogg and Sarkic all in the Championship. As are Jordan Graham and Danny Crowley albeit they left villa earlier on in their careers and aren't quite there yet. Hopefully this crop are a big improvement and go on to have more successful careers, but the Academy produced some players who have made a career out of football during a tumultuous time for the club ownership wise and through a lack of investment. Excited to see what we can do now we have investment and are being run properly, early signs are good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, nepal_villan said: I'm curious to see how we manage Academy talent that are late bloomers. Not all top talents are ready to break into a Premier League side (especially one that aspires to be Top 6) at age 19 or 20. Most will be ready at age 23 or 24. Will we be loaning them out for 4-5 years until they fully mature? I'd hope so, this is basically what Chelsea do. Have 80 players on the books with 50 of them loaned out at any given time. It's a huge leg up for FFP if we have a steady stream of quality kids coming through to play or sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted August 25, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said: I'd hope so, this is basically what Chelsea do. Have 80 players on the books with 50 of them loaned out at any given time. It's a huge leg up for FFP if we have a steady stream of quality kids coming through to play or sell. Interestingly that is where Purslow started so maybe he is to thank for what is happening at Youth level? Edited August 25, 2021 by S-Platt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 32 minutes ago, ThunderPower_14 said: I'd hope so, this is basically what Chelsea do. Have 80 players on the books with 50 of them loaned out at any given time. It's a huge leg up for FFP if we have a steady stream of quality kids coming through to play or sell. They changed the rules on that, think from next season you cannot loan as many players out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Zatman said: They changed the rules on that, think from next season you cannot loan as many players out Did they? I didn't see anything to confirm that, must have missed it. Do you have a source link describing the changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 That Pheonix Academy must have some good players to beat us 7-4, looking at that video quite a few of our first year scholars were playing, Sam Lewis in goal was recently away with England U17s and they put seven goals past him. Promising sign for Jamaican football, someone on twitter said that we're supposedly taking on their best young prospect, can't find any information on that but wouldn't surprise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: Did they? I didn't see anything to confirm that, must have missed it. Do you have a source link describing the changes? It was literally before lockdown it might have changed or went ignored since then Quote Restrictions on the number of loan deals clubs can agree are set to come into force next season. Fifa has proposed new regulations that would mean clubs could only have eight loan deals per season, both in and out of the club. That would then be reduced to six from 2022-23. It would apply just to international loans at first, involving players aged 22 or over. Chelsea currently have 28 players out on loan, with 15 aged 22 or over. The plans are subject to the approval of the Fifa Council. Fifa said the new regulations are intended to "ensure that loans have a valid sporting purpose for youth development". Individual leagues would then be given a period of three years to implement similar rules for domestic loan deals. Current Premier League rules state that clubs may not register more than two players on loan at any one time. Clubs can only register four loans in total in one season and cannot sign more than one player from the same club on loan at any one time. There are no restrictions on numbers of players that can leave clubs on loan. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/51665904 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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