TRO Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 12 hours ago, useless said: Bellingham has had a full season at championship level and is now playing for Borussia Dortumd in the champions league, so he's obviously further along in his development than Chukwuemeka. But I don't think there's anything to be gained by comparing our academy players to Bellingham, him doing as well as he has done at such a young age is very rare, pretty much every academy in world football would in trouble if they were doubting their young players just because they aren't doing as well as Bellingham. Different players develop at different rates, there are players now that will be around seventeen or eighteen that none of us have heard of, aren't playing first team football, but in around five or six years will be considered amongst some of the best players around. It's also worth remembering that Bellingham also benefited from being at a struggling championship club, so it was easier for him to be given a chance. I like him as a player, so not saying this to put him down, but there will players the same age as him who hardly any of us have heard of that will go on to have a better career, so again goes back to the thing of youngsters developing at different rates. The question wasn't intended to doubt our youth....it was meant to seek out perspective. we are being told often big clubs sniffing around our youth, i think Man City managed to secure one, who was highly rated. My point was leaning towards, why did we not court Bellingham more intensly......I think he will be a top,top, player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, TRO said: The question wasn't intended to doubt our youth....it was meant to seek out perspective. we are being told often big clubs sniffing around our youth, i think Man City managed to secure one, who was highly rated. My point was leaning towards, why did we not court Bellingham more intensly......I think he will be a top,top, player. re Bellingham, i would imagine: a) politically SHA wouldn't want to sell him to us under any circumstances, b) he's an SHA fan so i imagine that might be a blocker also, c) i imagine we didnt have the money to punt on a 17 year old at the time, with other keys areas requiring investment, d) Once a team like Dortmund went in for him, would he really have even considered a team that avoided relegation that season by a near miracle? I just think there were many small things at the time, adding up to a scenario where it would have been nearly impossible for us to have any chance of signing him, even if we wanted to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 1 minute ago, MaVilla said: re Bellingham, i would imagine: a) politically SHA wouldn't want to sell him to us under any circumstances, b) he's an SHA fan so i imagine that might be a blocker also, c) i imagine we didnt have the money to punt on a 17 year old at the time, with other keys areas requiring investment, d) Once a team like Dortmund went in for him, would he really have even considered a team that avoided relegation that season by a near miracle? I just think there were many small things at the time, adding up to a scenario where it would have been nearly impossible for us to have any chance of signing him, even if we wanted to. Fair comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, MaVilla said: re Bellingham, i would imagine: a) politically SHA wouldn't want to sell him to us under any circumstances, b) he's an SHA fan so i imagine that might be a blocker also, c) i imagine we didnt have the money to punt on a 17 year old at the time, with other keys areas requiring investment, d) Once a team like Dortmund went in for him, would he really have even considered a team that avoided relegation that season by a near miracle? I just think there were many small things at the time, adding up to a scenario where it would have been nearly impossible for us to have any chance of signing him, even if we wanted to. I believe Bellingham was actually a Villa fan, or at least his dad was. Not certain, mind, and could just be one of those rumours that aren’t true, such as Bowen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 20 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: Bellingham is arguably the best 17-year-old in world football, there's not much point comparing our 17-year-old's to him. I think you are right.....and i don't watch youth football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 A chance to see some of the U18s that haven't played for the U23s yet or in the FA Youth Cup... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Palace did good coverage of our U23s game there earlier in the season, so hopefully it will be good again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 11 hours ago, TRO said: The question wasn't intended to doubt our youth....it was meant to seek out perspective. we are being told often big clubs sniffing around our youth, i think Man City managed to secure one, who was highly rated. My point was leaning towards, why did we not court Bellingham more intensly......I think he will be a top,top, player. I’m just assuming we couldn’t get him. I mean we went and got Barry from Barcelona and we’ve brought in other good young prospects, I’d doubt we missed somebody on our doorstep that even us fans knew about. I have to believe that we, along with many other teams, for some reason couldn’t get him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 It looked like it could be a very important game at one point, but having won only one of the last eight culminating in a 7-0 defeat to Chelsea last weekend we're no longer in the title race. Slightly worrying thing is that Palace are in much better form than Chelsea are, second in the league on the same points as leaders Fulham, unbeaten in eleven and in that time have put five past West Ham and Norwich, four past Southampton and Fulham, and seven past West Brom. So if form is anything to go by will be a tough game, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a temptation to use a few U23 regulars that didn't play today like Raikhy, Bogarde, Chrisene, Young and Revan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Direct link for the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsxBVN_OANM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Teams news: Zych, Hart, Swinkels, Appiah, Revan, Sylla Tommi O'Reilly, Abldeen-Goodridge, Bradley Young, Raikhy, Sewell Subs: Marschall, Aaron O'Reilly, McBride, Bogarde, Reddin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I know a few of the U23 lads are very talented. How's the level on the U18 lads? Anyone half decent that may become a PL player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Whilst we can't complain at free coverage, it is a shame it is being filmed on a shaky potato. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 That looked outside the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I know it's his job but Palace co commentator doesn't stop talking, doesn't give the actual commentator a chance to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Our U18s struggle for goals so that's probably game over, was expecting a much better performance given the strength of our line up, most of them have played U23 football, but Palace have been much the better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Abldeen-Goodridge gets one back hopefully that gives us a lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, useless said: I know it's his job but Palace co commentator doesn't stop talking, doesn't give the actual commentator a chance to speak. I like Brighty to be honest, think he breaks the game down well. I like that he comments about what the coaches are shouting as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I don't mind what he's saying, very fair and balanced, just talks a lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, useless said: I don't mind what he's saying, very fair and balanced, just talks a lot. My guess is that the dynamic is very much that Bright is a long-time summariser who's done a lot of work on 5 Live, whereas their commentator hasn't done that much work before, so unlike most TV commentary, in this case the summariser is the 'senior' broadcaster taking charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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