omariqy Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 On 28/07/2020 at 08:46, villalad21 said: How many would take 38 points next season if offered it now? I'll tell you after the window closes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 On 28/07/2020 at 09:46, villalad21 said: How many would take 38 points next season if offered it now? Not right now. I am predicting / hoping that we will land some good (young) transfers and will finish with 48 points next season. Then the season after we'll be in / around the top half and the investment in younger players will be starting to pay dividends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeAVFC Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 We have to be real, we've scabbed it by the skin of our teeth. Anyone thinking we're just going to stroll into the top half/45 plus points and win 15 games overnight is kidding themselves, especially with such a quick turnaround. Offer me 38-40 pts and 14/15th place i'd gladly take it. It's about progression and we need shrewd signings for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, MikeAVFC said: We have to be real, we've scabbed it by the skin of our teeth. Anyone thinking we're just going to stroll into the top half/45 plus points and win 15 games overnight is kidding themselves, especially with such a quick turnaround. Offer me 38-40 pts and 14/15th place i'd gladly take it. It's about progression and we need shrewd signings for this. I think 38 no, 40-43 I’d take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Just thinking we ended last season well and we should be looking to take some confidence into the new season. Hopefully we can improve the first eleven with three new acquisitions and get a decent fixture list for the opening few games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Adam2003 said: I think 38 no, 40-43 I’d take it. We were almost 37 points if we didn't let West Ham score their draw. So that's not a progress to be honest. I won't claim anything, but if we still had Grealish after the window closes, I think we'll need to aim much higher (ofcourse after seeing our activity in the market). Last time we didn't do it right when Benteke and Delph went. Now if we keep Grealish, then that itself shall make us stable and aim higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, abdulaziz1 said: We were almost 37 points if we didn't let West Ham score their draw. So that's not a progress to be honest. I won't claim anything, but if we still had Grealish after the window closes, I think we'll need to aim much higher (ofcourse after seeing our activity in the market). Last time we didn't do it right when Benteke and Delph went. Now if we keep Grealish, then that itself shall make us stable and aim higher. 37 points you might go down. 40-43 you won’t. So I don’t think that’s major progress and I’d hope for more from the season but if I was offered it now (which was the question) I would probably take it. I don’t disagree though that we should aim higher. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Who knows whats possible in regards to our final point tally. We were 2 very late equalisers away from winning those last 4 games and we lost so many points from winning positions all season. We look as if we’ve learned how to defend a lot better now, we might start looking solid and savvy all of a sudden with some good additions to supplement the side. Im excited as always pre season. No doubt it will all come crashing down early October time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted July 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2020 You can technically win the league on 38 points as McLeish tried to do 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted July 30, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Zatman said: You can technically win the league on 38 points as McLeish tried to do Would've finished bottom on Goals Scored though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amed Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 If we are in bottom 3 come Feb 2021 i’d for sure take 38 points but not now. Hoping Villa never settle for just surviving at start of a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I think we would be a bit arrogant if we didnt consider staying up as the first priority so I would take anything above 38 points really. Hopefully it's a bit more fun than this season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, sharkyvilla said: I think we would be a bit arrogant if we didnt consider staying up as the first priority so I would take anything above 38 points really. Hopefully it's a bit more fun than this season though. I respectfully disagree. We were very close to winning more games last season. Naivety cost us more wins. We took the lead in so many games last season and nearly held on to the wins. We were 5 minutes away from getting a huge win against Liverpool but for a dip in concentration. I stand by my 15 wins in the season challenge. I think we will be capable of it depending on how we recruit in the window. 2 wins already on the board - Tesco carrier bags are so easy to rip apart! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Nah we need to aim higher than just surviving each season. I’m not expecting top half but somewhere around 12th with points in the high 40s would be decent progress. That’s why our signings need to be bold and ambitious on proven quality otherwise it will be a long season again. The owners and management will realise this but it will take another summer of large investment. I doubt we could finish above the top 6 + Wolves, Everton, Leicester and possibly Spam, but all the other sides next season we should be aiming to finish above. I also think Doug, Jack, SJM, Mings and Konsa will all improve with a year’s experience in the Prem. There is definitely potential there in our team, but we need to plug the gaps properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 A couple of softer games to start, but big teams away first, so possibly when we play them at home there'll be crowds of some sort in. Against last seasons table, 45 is top of the shit teams, 50 bottom of the better ones. So somewhere in that spread would be a good season for me. Don't see why we shouldn't be challenging Burnley, Southampton, Everton etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, MikeAVFC said: We have to be real, we've scabbed it by the skin of our teeth. Anyone thinking we're just going to stroll into the top half/45 plus points and win 15 games overnight is kidding themselves, especially with such a quick turnaround. Offer me 38-40 pts and 14/15th place i'd gladly take it. It's about progression and we need shrewd signings for this. To be honest you never know. Many teams have had a tough first season. Then buoyed by the experience and astute additions have gone on to do very well the following season. Deano will have learned alot, and I assume the style of play will have been tweaked, the silly points we have dropped should mostly be cut out. I mean think about the amount of points we actually dropped purely through individual errors etc? We arguably could/should have been lower mid table sake of some terrible errors and decisions. Edited July 30, 2020 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) We've shown in the campaign just passed that we can compete with and challenge anyone in the league, even the best in Europe. Now we must push on to be able to defeat them too. When we hit the woodwork late in the cup final against City, we narrowly missed a chance to send the game into ET and give ourselves a shot at silverware, against one of Europe's top teams. Don't underestimate how good a go we had at adding to the trophy cabinet that day, we started brighter than our opponents, but in typical fashion were punished early on and at the first occasion where our opponents were able to muster a chance, consequently we're put in a position whereby victory was a monumental task as we lost the leverage on the game and were forced to chase. So many games this season passed, we failed to hold it together for 90 minutes and were susceptible to conceding as a consequence of our own liabilities and errors being exploited. We were comfortably mid-table for goals scored, it was our inability to protect our own neck that cost us, conceding the second most of all teams. Despite this 10 of our 21 losses came through defeats by margins of one goal, which just shows that despite being the second worst team for keeping goals out, we ended well over two thirds of our total matches either winning, on equal terms, or down by a single goal. If we can change that, and play with stamina, cohesion, reliability and consistency then I think we can aim to achieve a top half finish, no doubt. Edit: If you look at the statistical data for different areas of play we are actually comfortably a mid-table, if not pushing top half team. The areas we lack in are shots and goals conceded, and we were lower half for tackles made per game on average per side too. Otherwise, I looked at every key area on whoscored.com and we are comfortably mid-table in every other department. I know that only tells you so much about the game, but it does offer enough insight on a whole to gain some idea for how we fared this last season. Edited July 30, 2020 by A'Villan 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 45-50 points would be progress and would hopefully mean a stable footing to build us into a good Premier League side. Following season, I would then like us to push into the top ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 This is very funny 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Farlz said: This is very funny Surely Ant & Dec have got a few bob between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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