villa4europe Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I don't think we get rid of Samatta or Wesley, give them a chance and see if they get their heads round English football and develop in to what we thought they would There's at least one more player from our spending that will do a Luiz and just come back speaking English bossing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 We need someone that can stick the ball in between the old onion bag!! I struggle to see where the goals will come from. Jack will be gone. But we hold the aces to be honest, if let's say Manure come in with a 15m take it or leave it for Jack we can say jog on. Look at the stupid prices championship teams wanted for their players last season. They want to keep their assets as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I struggle to see where the creativity is coming from without Jack. 2 wins in 12 we won last season without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Keepers : Heaton as we are paying him £42k a week no other team will take that on , decent keeper, so we are quite strong here if he stays fit Steer as backup , sign a youngster Bin Nyland & Kalinic Defence : Mings will be gone leaving us Hause , Konsa ,Engels ,Targett , Guilbert ,Taylor ,Elmo we need to strengthen here big time , we have no pace or any leadership Midfield : Jack has already gone , with McGinn and Luiz also likely to go and thankfully Lansbury and his £40k a week will be gone from the books end of this season that leaves us , Hourihane (signed a new deal in the summer so unlikely to go ), Jota ( 1yr left) , El Ghazi , Trez , Nakamba yeah we are pretty **** here , plus i'd expect El Ghazi and Trez to leave (hopefully) presumably Vassilev , Ramsey & Chukwuemeka will be around the squad Forwards : Samatta , Wesley & Davis on paper these 3 are quite strong for the Championship , If the hype is true then presumably Barry will add to the squad and become the 4th striker That squad isn't winning promotion as it stands in my opinion .... however , income from the sales of Grealish, Mings , Luiz , El Ghazi , Trez , should help the new manager mould a team that he wants .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: Midfield : Jack has already gone , with McGinn and Luiz also likely to go and thankfully Lansbury and his £40k a week will be gone from the books end of this season He has another year left on his contract, 2021 Just like Taylor. Some absolutely shocking contracts agreed to since we went down. Edited July 8, 2020 by sne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, sne said: He has another year left on his contract, 2021 Just like Taylor. Some absolutely shocking contracts agreed to since we went down. well , that just ruined my day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five Ken McNaughts Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I like your overview there, @tonyh29, though I can see those remaining defenders being a reasonable unit at Championship level without too much extra investment. Full-backs of Guilbert and Targett then a centre-back pairing from Hause / Engels / Konsa. Even if we signed no-one else, that looks stronger than the start of our last season down there (Hutton - Chester - Jedinak - Taylor). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: I struggle to see where the creativity is coming from without Jack. 2 wins in 12 we won last season without him. You know we can sign players in the summer right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just now, DCJonah said: You know we can sign players in the summer right? Yeah. We're not too good at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Yeah. We're not too good at that. We didn't do well last summer. The idea that will then be the same forever is a bit daft. Next year, like last time we were down there, we will have the advantage of everyone at that level wanting to play for us. Edited July 8, 2020 by DCJonah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raver50032 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) With FFP being dispensed with this year (is it?) we may not actually have to sell anybody. Of course, some of our 'big' names like Grealish, Luiz and Mings could actually go on loan to see how things pan out. I can't see many teams spunking mega bucks this summer, so loaning out may be better for us (to see if we can get back up and see if this virus goes away) and better for the club that might be interested in our players... Try before you actually buy... Grealish could be crap for United. He could end up on the bench all season, no good for him. We don't know. United won't be paying top dollar for him at all. Mings - he won't want to play in the Championship again now that he's an England international. But at the same time, as nice enough as a guy he is, I can't see mega bucks being spent on him as he's been part of a defence that has been collectively shite for over 9 months. I can see him going on loan to one of the promoted teams. Heaton - as with Mings. Whichever way you look at it, we won't be getting mega bucks for our players, and I'm sure I've seen it reported somewhere that the parachute payments for relegated teams will be reduced too. Going to be an interesting summer if you like white knuckle rides and pouring paraffin onto Aston Villa. Pretty confident that Smith will be our manager going into the new season - didn't Purslow say as much? We'd be sticking with Dean for the long term, even if we get relegated. You don't have to quote any of this with a sneer or a snipe if you don't like my post. It's just an internet forum and what I've typed may or may not actually be what I really think. Peace be with you all, fellow Villans, come what may. Edited July 8, 2020 by Raver50032 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: I don't think we get rid of Samatta or Wesley, give them a chance and see if they get their heads round English football and develop in to what we thought they would There's at least one more player from our spending that will do a Luiz and just come back speaking English bossing it Its a risk, relying on those two. But I do think they should be able to score goals at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Its a risk, relying on those two. But I do think they should be able to score goals at that level. Hopefully hopefully Wes is talking to Luiz seeing his form jump through the roof and follows a similar path if it is as simple as settling and learning the language Samatta looks like a fitness and form issue and hopefully playing in the championship a couple of early goals and he's on his way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) Purslow is not going to like it but we will need to get some loans in again from the big boys. It will be back to being short term but if done correctly it brings in quality which you can't afford to have permanently as a championship side. Edited July 8, 2020 by The Fun Factory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Rhian Brewster could be another Tammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Joe Lolley will be a obvious signing. Good player for the championship. Villa fan. Probably cost about 15-20 million in today's market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 With the 5 sub thing it'll be interesting to see what happens to the loan market Brewster could be on the bench at Liverpool next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Purslow is not going to like it but we will need to get some loans in again from the big boys. It will be back to being short term but if done correctly it brings in quality which you can't afford to have permanently as a championship side. If we can get them on loan to buy (dependant on performance/promotion) to help create that stability then even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just now, The Fun Factory said: Joe Lolley will be a obvious signing. Good player for the championship. Villa fan. Probably cost about 15-20 million in today's market. Talked about this before... Good player for the championship hits the nail on the head, what about when we get promoted 1 or 2 years in to his 5 year deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just now, villa4europe said: Talked about this before... Good player for the championship hits the nail on the head, what about when we get promoted 1 or 2 years in to his 5 year deal? Buy better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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