Demitri_C Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Nabby said: Every club globally has lost cash due to Covid prices will be affected .If it comes to us being docked points under FFP or sell Jack for 40mil then he is being sold. On flip side we may benefit when it comes to buying players as no one in the championship will have any cash with no fans. We wont have any ffp worries not yet anyway. Firstly we have parachute payments and secondly ffp is suspended for a year. Alot of these fat cat owners will still have stupid money it wont be as what you think. 40m for grealish that wont happen i think. That would be a derisory deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnnyp said: And you have an over inflated opinion of our players. I never said sell mings for less. I said if we got what we paid for him, id take it. Can you honestly keep a 40 million pound asset ( and i guarantee you right now if we are relegated, it's what we'll get for Grealish ) on the books, in the championship + he won't want to be here. Trezeguet comment made in jest but he is absolutely crap. We wont accept 40m for grealish that im confident of. That is a ridiculous offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Keeping heaton konsa luiz and mcginn is key for me. The new spine of the team Keep targett, keep along with wesley. Id keep jota as he has proven he can do it at Premier League level. El ghazi trez elmo taylor nyland samatta lansbury can all go This is exactly what I mean when I say players are written off far too soon. He's played 10 games, moved to a completely new country during times that are unprecedented and looked decent before the lockdown. All of a sudden people want rid of him. We will never, ever be able to pick up our own gems from abroad and develop them decently because if they don't do it and impress within 10 games, half the fan base wants then out. I agree with the rest, they've all proven over a decent amount of time they aren't good enough. Samatta has been given no chance if we sell him in the summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 41 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: We wont have any ffp worries not yet anyway. Firstly we have parachute payments and secondly ffp is suspended for a year. Alot of these fat cat owners will still have stupid money it wont be as what you think. 40m for grealish that wont happen i think. That would be a derisory deal FFP is suspended by UEFA thats not the same as the EFL one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 54 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: We wont accept 40m for grealish that im confident of. That is a ridiculous offer Then we've turned down a sizeable fee for a player who won't want to be here and could down tools, like last night ( talks of rebuilds, projects won't sway him this time, he absolutely will not want to play championship football, factor in the euro's also ) So i say it again , Cantwell goes for 40 million people think that's about right. Talk of Grealish for 40 million and people lose their nut. Both have one promotion each. Both about to be relegated. Comparable number of goals. Oh sorry, Jack most fouled player - that would drive it up to pogba type figures. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 37 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Then we've turned down a sizeable fee for a player who won't want to be here and could down tools, like last night ( talks of rebuilds, projects won't sway him this time, he absolutely will not want to play championship football, factor in the euro's also ) So i say it again , Cantwell goes for 40 million people think that's about right. Talk of Grealish for 40 million and people lose their nut. Both have one promotion each. Both about to be relegated. Comparable number of goals. Oh sorry, Jack most fouled player - that would drive it up to pogba type figures. My bad. Well to start with it seems United have cooled on Grealish as they don't have the cash to spend 80 od mill especially when Pogba looks to be stating as again no one can afford to buy him.Plus I'm not sure how he would fit into their team now.17 games unbeaten with current team he isn't going to play in CM there and in a front three he struggles to get in as they score more goals than him. My bet is City look for a deal with Sane gone or if Newcastle sale goes through they may come in for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 42 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Then we've turned down a sizeable fee for a player who won't want to be here and could down tools, like last night ( talks of rebuilds, projects won't sway him this time, he absolutely will not want to play championship football, factor in the euro's also ) So i say it again , Cantwell goes for 40 million people think that's about right. Talk of Grealish for 40 million and people lose their nut. Both have one promotion each. Both about to be relegated. Comparable number of goals. Oh sorry, Jack most fouled player - that would drive it up to pogba type figures. My bad. Grealish's main asset is his ability to pick a defence. They both have similar goalscoring stats but Grealish's buildup and assist stats are far better. Literally 2.5 times more assists per 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Literally cant wait for next season where ever we are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 19 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Not botherd if mings goes. Guys been garbage and doesnt look like same guy who got us up. Sell him if a decnt offer comes in Whats a decent offer though? Cant see us making a profit on him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I think we seen in Championship you need a goalkeeper (Heaton) commanding centre back (mings if stays) midfield engine(McGinn) 20 goal striker and a quality playmaker If have them 5 you are nearly there, the rest can be worked on 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: Whats a decent offer though? Cant see us making a profit on him I know what you mean but now England international and full season in the PL along with his profile getting more exposure. If Maguire is 80m, we’ll be comfortably getting 30m. Supported further by last season Mings and Webster being around 20m, so has to be materially higher than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, nick76 said: I know what you mean but now England international and full season in the PL along with his profile getting more exposure. If Maguire is 80m, we’ll be comfortably getting 30m. Supported further by last season Mings and Webster being around 20m, so has to be materially higher than that. I think will be a quiet window and little activity. In a regular summer I would agree with you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, Zatman said: I think will be a quiet window and little activity. In a regular summer I would agree with you Why do you think that? Just quiet for Villa or generally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: Why do you think that? Just quiet for Villa or generally? in general with the impact from corona and probably a shorter transfer window 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Whats a decent offer though? Cant see us making a profit on him I'd say 30m. We'll at least get a couple mil back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: in general with the impact from corona and probably a shorter transfer window Ok, I don’t think it will impact PL clubs business and aren’t they looking to extend the transfer window until October. They are at least discussing that extension according to many reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Even if we go down I can't see many players leaving, Luiz seems the obvious one. Nobody will pay what we value Grealish at and nobody will pay £30 million for Mings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Even if we go down I can't see many players leaving, Luiz seems the obvious one. Nobody will pay what we value Grealish at and nobody will pay £30 million for Mings. I'm very concerned about Mings if we get promoted again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Mjvilla said: This is exactly what I mean when I say players are written off far too soon. He's played 10 games, moved to a completely new country during times that are unprecedented and looked decent before the lockdown. All of a sudden people want rid of him. We will never, ever be able to pick up our own gems from abroad and develop them decently because if they don't do it and impress within 10 games, half the fan base wants then out. I agree with the rest, they've all proven over a decent amount of time they aren't good enough. Samatta has been given no chance if we sell him in the summer. Just but you have to actually see some potential from him to work on he has shown very little. Id aay he looks even more ineffective than wesley. Adds very little to our game. 4 hours ago, Zatman said: Whats a decent offer though? Cant see us making a profit on him 30-35m i dont think is unreasonable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Demitri_C said: We wont accept 40m for grealish that im confident of. That is a ridiculous offer Why is that ridiculous. If you want to look as a neutral the guy is nearly 25 with less than 3 seasons of top flight football to his name. Jack has a lot of ability without a doubt but he hasn't proved himself in the long term in the top flight yet. Granted that is mostly down to his loyalty and Villa being rubbish for years. I will be surprised if we sell him for much more than 40 mil, he might even have a release fee in his contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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