sheepyvillian Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 This thread is decidedly half - empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Such a massive game. Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeAVFC Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Absolutely last chance saloon. Lose this and we're done for 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Flippin heck if that fiendish Bournemouth win tomorrow and we don't then we'll be in even deeper trouble than we're in already. What a tense day we have coming up, again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, MikeAVFC said: Absolutely last chance saloon. Lose this and we're done for Already done to a tee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Win or we're down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted June 24, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 hours ago, MikeAVFC said: Absolutely last chance saloon. Lose this and we're done for But win and everything changes !!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robtaylor200 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 8 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: This thread is decidedly half - empty. Or half full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMightyVillans Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Must win game. If we dont win then we are going down. Id go with either 3-5-2 or 4-4-2. Really need two up top. We have no success on the wings and we need jack in the middle. Mcginn looked exhausted last match so not sure if he should start. Nyland Konsa Mings Hause Guilbert/Elmo Targett Mcginn/Hourihane Luiz Grealish Davis Samatta Or Nyland Guilbert/Elmo Konsa Mings Targett Nakamba Mcginn/Hourihane Luiz Grealish Davis Samatta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robtaylor200 Posted June 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2020 I am not having my usual bet on 4:1 tonight and NEVER AGAIN this season. My son reckons if I stop doing it, then its sure to happen. I will happily take that 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, Robtaylor200 said: I am not having my usual bet on 4:1 tonight and NEVER AGAIN this season. My son reckons if I stop doing it, then its sure to happen. I will happily take that Newcastle have got every chance of winning 4-1. Stick to your guns mate! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Apologies for the long post, I haven’t posted in a match thread for a while now, so I’ve a lot to say lol This has the feeling of a must win game, at the very least must not lose. I disagree with Dean that we played well against Chelsea, we were better defensively for the most part, but we were beaten by our inability to get the ball out of our third for more than a couple of passes. You can’t win football matches whilst sustaining that kind of pressure. Also, as a lot of posters have said since the restart, it’s still evident that we’re heavily over reliant on Jack. Teams cut Jack out, and we have no other creative outlet, every good bit of play seems to come through him at some point. Teams are resorting to openly fouling him when he attempts to attack now as well. These fouls are cynical and are clear attempts at stopping play unfairly, more needs to be done about it, but that’s nothing new to any of us. The wingers are still obsolete. We’re not playing a 4-3-3, the wingers are that far back that it’s a 4-5-1. Davis, to his credit has done a great job at attempting to hold up the balls that we’ve largely hoofed his way, but he’s not the answer. I like Davis but I’m not confident in the remaining games that he’ll finish the limited chances we’ll create. That’s not me being negative, even when we’ve played well we haven’t created too many chances. Maybe try him with a partner, Samatta could do with somebody with him, as he looks like he knows where the net is but gets pushed out when he’s isolated. I have no idea as to what formation or line up changes should be made, but something does need to change. Whatever we do, the striker is isolated and the wingers are creating next to nothing. We’ve missed a specialised RB, Konsa is a decent defender but plays like a CB. We need somebody supporting and if Freddy isn’t ready Elmo needs to play to sort that out. That, and Hause needs out. He’s great in the air but seems unable to read the game and his negatives for me, outweigh the positives. On a positive note, Douglas looks to have come back a different player. I think he’s been great the last two games, he looks like he’s showing some of talent we’ve seen but with the confidence he’s been missing. But with him maybe being the answer to our current DM problem? This new Douglas won’t be up creating any chances which is what is sorely needed, which is another headache. We have arguably 5,6 maybe 7 premier league level players, we shouldn’t be conceding the shots/chances/possession that we have been. I knew anything other than a relegation battle our first season up would be anything other than difficult. It was always going to be tough but we’re just too easy to play against, I like what Dean’s trying to do but it’s not working at the minute. On tonight’s game, I’ll admit to having not watched much of Bruce’s Newcastle so I’m not sure what to expect. I know Joelinton managed to finally get a goal the other day so I imagine he’s going to be up for it. I’m hanging my hopes on Smith’s form over Bruce in the past. That away performance to Brentford in particular sticks in my mind. I want to think positive so I’m going for Smith to make an actual formation/player change that isn’t just a variation of what we’ve been doing already, and a 2-1 win with Mings and Samatta scoring. We have some talented individuals but they need to start playing as a team, some in particular need to start fighting more for the team and their place in it. Here’s to tonight being the night. UTV! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Comfortable win for Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted June 24, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 24, 2020 This is the big one - after last night's result for West Ham, it's important we make them feel the heat. A win here and then a defeat for them against Chelsea would have them feeling like they're in a spiral as they go into their little run of three easier games. It's absolutely vital that we get something out of this one - a point wouldn't be the end for us, but it'd leave us with a good sized hill to climb - but a win would make everything feel a lot better and in the absence of fans influence, that felling might count for a lot as we get to the pinch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Does anybody else go through horrendous emotional cycles with villa?? Before sheff utd, i was so excited, feeling really positive, then after, felt flat for 24 - 58 hours and couldnt even think about chelsea. Then 24 hours b4 chelsea, felt excited and positive. Afterwards felt completely gutted. Now, im positive again...awful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Morning campers. Let's hope that today all 11 players play with the sense of urgency that they should! I only saw the AVTV highlights of the Sheffield Utd. game but Lawro said of our performance that there was no massive urgency. :s Maybe they could try to play each match as if their lives depend on it?! I mean on top of playing with the knowledge that the club's premier league life depends on how they play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2020 (edited) The phrase "must win game" is often bandied around too freely and whilst technically can only apply to the game that mathematically will relegate you unless you win, this really does feel like a must win. It's really hard to see where we are going to get enough points from without a win tonight. Added to which would be the huge psychological boost that it will probably get us out of the relegation zone looking at others fixtures. Edited June 24, 2020 by sidcow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Does anybody else go through horrendous emotional cycles with villa?? Before sheff utd, i was so excited, feeling really positive, then after, felt flat for 24 - 58 hours and couldnt even think about chelsea. Then 24 hours b4 chelsea, felt excited and positive. Afterwards felt completely gutted. Now, im positive again...awful. Yes. That happens to me too! Except that I'm not positive this time. I was before Sheffield Utd. and Chelsea, but not before this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 24, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 24, 2020 On 22/06/2020 at 13:17, rjw63 said: I keep seeing the phrase "if we have any chance of staying up". We're 19th, and we can't buy a win. We even lost twice to **** Bournemouth. Just embrace relegation chaps, it's less stressful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, sidcow said: Can you honestly blame him for having that view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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