villa4europe Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 13 minutes ago, PaulC said: Contracts will be made subject to the season finishing. There’s got to be some compromise here . If the season is voided there will be so many law suits made by clubs who have been hard done to will they? loan deals too? seen nothing to suggest that, contracts are made to dates, its not a service agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, PaulC said: Contracts will be made subject to the season finishing. There’s got to be some compromise here . If the season is voided there will be so many law suits made by clubs who have been hard done to Who are they going to sue? Corona? I personally don't think there is a cat in hells chance the season gets voided and will continue next year if needs be. However, if it is voided the clubs will just have to suck it up, these are unprecedented times and any clubs talking about law suits will be slaughtered and rightly so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: Players cant be forced to stay at a club past the contract. Governing bodies have been embarrassed in court many times by trying force players to stay at a club But they haven’t fulfilled their contracts if the season is made null and void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, PaulC said: But they haven’t fulfilled their contracts if the season is made null and void but they have they an employment contract to a set date (30th june 2020) they are not employed for the 2019/20 season same with loan deals, out drinkwater loan is until the 30th june 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, jim said: Who are they going to sue? Corona? I personally don't think there is a cat in hells chance the season gets voided and will continue next year if needs be. However, if it is voided the clubs will just have to suck it up, these are unprecedented times and any clubs talking about law suits will be slaughtered and rightly so. Ok but the same can be said about contracts. You are right just get on with it whatever happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Tokyo summer Olympics officially moved to next summer. No date set yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Just now, villa4europe said: but they have they an employment contract to a set date (30th june 2020) they are not employed for the 2019/20 season same with loan deals, out drinkwater loan is until the 30th june 2020 But season ended in March so they haven’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Just now, PaulC said: But season ended in March so they haven’t what if players sign a 1 year contract 1st july until 30th june? 30th june they are out of emplyment the contract wording doesn't recognise the competition (in fact the player can sign a contract with the club and then not be registered in the 25 man PL squad and therefore not be eligible to play in that competition) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Just now, PaulC said: But season ended in March so they haven’t Contracts are not set based on season but on dates. It ends when it ends, most of them on 30/6. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: will they? loan deals too? seen nothing to suggest that, contracts are made to dates, its not a service agreement According to The Athletic, if the PL doesn't give the fixtures it has promised to broadcasters they're going have £762m less than they expected coming in. Eyewatering. This year's clubs have already been paid for the full season so that money will have to come out of next year's pot if they try to recoup it. It's just too much, so they'll probably end up messing up football for 2/3 years to avoid it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Even if it’s dates based but they are not available to play during their contract because there’s no football so really the contracts should be revoked , it will be very much frowned upon if players are not willing to play for their respective clubs when the season restarts . I think a compromise will be made under the circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: According to The Athletic, if the PL doesn't give the fixtures it has promised to broadcasters they're going have £762m less than they expected coming in. Eyewatering. This year's clubs have already been paid for the full season so that money will have to come out of next year's pot if they try to recoup it. It's just too much, so they'll probably end up messing up football for 2/3 years to avoid it. again though that will depend on the wording of the contract there's every danger that will be like a service agreement, they are paid £x for x number of games, that isn't fulfilled so the broadcasters can insist on their money back player contracts are not based on competitions or number of games etc they are time related so will have to be paid still (unless of course it is "pay as you play") and will still end on the set date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 1 minute ago, PaulC said: Even if it’s dates based but they are not available to play during their contract because there’s no football so really the contracts should be revoked , it will be very much frowned upon if players are not willing to play for their respective clubs when the season restarts . I think a compromise will be made under the circumstances why? they have no contractual obligation to do so and morals in football are not going to be likely and what we might find is that it actually suits each individuals / clubs arguments as to whether or not they want to come back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Anyone banking on players, agents and clubs being reasonable and not greedy when it comes to contracts and transfers will be greatly disappointed. They are not going to just put contract on hold and risk their investments getting injured. The number of injures that will happen if unfit players are forced to play 10 or so games in a few weeks is gonna be crazy. Big issue why it will never happen is of course that Covid-19 will not have magically gone away in a few months. It will still effect tons of people everywhere. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: again though that will depend on the wording of the contract there's every danger that will be like a service agreement, they are paid £x for x number of games, that isn't fulfilled so the broadcasters can insist on their money back player contracts are not based on competitions or number of games etc they are time related so will have to be paid still (unless of course it is "pay as you play") and will still end on the set date That's what I mean yes, Sky et al have not paid the PL yet, and won't if the games aren't played. So they will be played IMO. Players contracts is going to be another right mess. There's a chance FIFA might have have to step in to try and stop clubs and agents eating football and just **** each other over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) I did have a quick look a few weeks ago and you could say in theory if games resume 1st july we aren't that bad, we'd lose reina, drinkwater and davis, west ham was ok they were just 1 or 2 squad players, Bournemouth was 8 players from memory edit - Newcastle have 7 contracts and 4 loans ending baggies have 9 contracts and 4 loans ending (on a side note - "doing a villa" if they get promoted?) without opening a new transfer window I don't see how Newcastle cope with that, open a new window and that's an even worse can of worms Edited March 24, 2020 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 No player is going to sign a short term deal if they are risking major injury especially if that player is 28-30. No agent would accept that either unless they are taking a huge pay rise for it I think this might be the start of the football financial collapse, sadly will be smaller clubs that will go bust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Seems like a club employee has it, guy with the beard you see coming in with the team on matchdays. Not sure on his actual role at the club. Sounds like he has a serious form of it aswell so that's not good at all. Edit: Club Masseur so some of the squad might've had it. Edited March 24, 2020 by VillaChris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 37 minutes ago, Zatman said: No player is going to sign a short term deal if they are risking major injury especially if that player is 28-30. No agent would accept that either unless they are taking a huge pay rise for it I think this might be the start of the football financial collapse, sadly will be smaller clubs that will go bust That's why I think FIFA might have to put some sort of blanket rules in place. Not a clue what they could be though. Agents will do their usual and players will follow. I don't think any players should be allowed to move clubs and compete in the 19-20 season for a different team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 55 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Seems like a club employee has it, guy with the beard you see coming in with the team on matchdays. Not sure on his actual role at the club. Sounds like he has a serious form of it aswell so that's not good at all. Edit: Club Masseur so some of the squad might've had it. alex butler, he's on twitter but been very quiet since the cup final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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