DJ_Villain Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, sidcow said: I've always thought that if this came to pass you would have a number of clubs who are currently considered Giants, who waltz their league every year who would just become whipping boys. Someone will always be coming last. What fun. Exactly... Your Club Brugges, Galatasarys, Red Star Belgrades et al. would get spanked yearly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Finding this thread a bit weird at the moment. I seem to be in the minority, in that I actually want the football club whose name this forum takes to survive the next few months as a going concern, and am happy for them to take the steps that they need to take to achieve that. Lots and lots and lots of businesses have had to furlough employees, many of whom have significantly better finances than your average football club. The reason for this government support programme to exist is so that it can save businesses that are going to the wall, which all football clubs will, and fairly quickly, in the current circumstances. but Liverpool and Tottenham wont go to the wall, Newcastle either. Coventry, Leyton Orient have rightly applied for it because they could actually go to bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Finding this thread a bit weird at the moment. I seem to be in the minority, in that I actually want the football club whose name this forum takes to survive the next few months as a going concern, and am happy for them to take the steps that they need to take to achieve that. Lots and lots and lots of businesses have had to furlough employees, many of whom have significantly better finances than your average football club. The reason for this government support programme to exist is so that it can save businesses that are going to the wall, which all football clubs will, and fairly quickly, in the current circumstances. Yes you a make a valid point. Football club at the end of the day are just businesses. It’s just the division In wages between the footballers and general members of staff that’s the problem. The Pfa I blame for wanting to protect players rights instead of telling them straight away take pay cuts. If footballers had got in first there would be no issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: but Liverpool and Tottenham wont go to the wall, Newcastle either. Coventry, Leyton Orient have rightly applied for it because they could actually go to bust I don't share your belief that Premier League teams can survive as going concerns for long at all without football happening. These are businesses for which wages are a huge proportion of turnover, and usually have a lot of debt that needs servicing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Gareth Southgate taking a 30% pay cut. You’d think it would be more, not like he can review player or new data. England won’t be playing for a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sharkyvilla Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 11 hours ago, The_Steve said: By my crude calculations, the players taking a 30% pay cut would mean over £3m per month less tax being paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 13 hours ago, Zatman said: Surely companies should have to qualify for furlough, if a company is making certain amount of profits they should be banned from the scheme I don't think that would work. If you're a lower paid employee at a massive company like Amazon you could be ****. They'll just let you go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Rooney voicing his opinion again. Oh poor footballers, firstly being used as guinea pigs now being picked on by the health secretary. Nobody will have sympathy for footballers. Join the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) I doubt players at Derby are on big money compared to Rooneys wage A lot bigger targets than Rooney to be moaned at. 2 Champions League finalists in 2019 for a start Edited April 5, 2020 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: I doubt players at Derby are on big money compared to Rooneys wage Probably not. He’s got to be almost a billionaire himself hasn’t he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 Just now, PaulC said: Probably not. He’s got to be almost a billionaire himself hasn’t he. No, Beckham, Messi or Ronaldo arent even close to being a billionaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Just now, Zatman said: No, Beckham, Messi or Ronaldo arent even close to being a billionaire Are you sure? If counted all their assets it would be close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 As much as I'd like football back in 3-4 months this is really poor all round from premier league and won't be forgotten in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, PaulC said: Are you sure? If counted all their assets it would be close Together they might be a billionaire. Your net worth is closer to Messi than Messi net worth is to a billionaire Messi is highest paid footballer on a list I saw of athletes in 2020 so used him as an example Edited April 5, 2020 by Zatman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 He’s invested in properties. He’s probably got business interests you don’t even know about. Nobody knows apart from their accountants what their true worth is. Dont hsve sympathy for Premier League or the footballers, greedy bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, PaulC said: He’s invested in properties. He’s probably got business interests you don’t even know about. Nobody knows apart from their accountants what their true worth is. Dont hsve sympathy for Premier League or the footballers, greedy bastards You do know paycuts mean all players so players from Walsall, Rochdale etc living on wage to wage. PFA represents a lot more than Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: I don't think that would work. If you're a lower paid employee at a massive company like Amazon you could be ****. They'll just let you go. Yes, this is exactly what would happen. People are missing that the point of the furloughing option is precisely *so there is a job to go back to when this is all over*. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 It shouldn’t have to be that way. The high earners shoujd take the brunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Potentially hundreds of clubs around the UK could go out of business now. Even before this enforced break many were close to going under, the longer this goes on it will be interesting to see what happens. I guess that's why the PL are adamant football will return at some point....Personally it's going to be months before we can even consider restarting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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