villalad21 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Ok this is a really tough one. We've had a bunch of poor managers and I'm sure loads of you will disagree with my ranking. I'll rank them from worst to best. 8th RDM. There's nothing much to say. Bottom half of the table in Championship with one of the biggest budgets. 7th Garde. Shocking. Can't remember anything else but losing. 6th Sherwood. Got his manager bounce effect and managed to have us escape relegation but next season proved what a poor manager he is. 5th Bruce. Stabilized us somewhat after RDM and brought in some decent players but at the end of the day didn't achieve anything. 4th Smith. Here the mob will come chasing after me. Finishing 5th and winning the play offs with one of the best squads in the league is no great achievement for me. Worst defensive stats in the league after 140 million spent doesn't look very impressing. Likely to get relegated. 3rd McLeish. Football was dog s***. Highly uninspiring coach. He managed not getting relegated which is why I have him 3rd. Me placing him third just tells you what we've been dealing with for this decade. 2nd Houllier Football was somewhere better than under McLeish 1st Lambert. This may shock some people but yes, Lambert. Managed to avoid relegation for 2 seasons with a dog s*** squad. To me it's still impressing. With the little resources he had and what he managed to achieve is why he is number 1. We often talk about Smith's difficult task of rebuilding the squad. Lambert had to do the same thing. But with peanuts. He was forced to recruit players from the lower league. Edited March 4, 2020 by villalad21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted March 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2020 Think this thread fully confirms you are here on a wind up 16 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Did you really need another thread to dangle this bait. 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: 4th Smith. Here the mob will come chasing after me. Finishing 5th and winning the play offs with one of the best squads in the league is no great achievement for me. Worst defensive stats in the league after 140 million spent doesn't look very impressing. Likely to get relegated. 3rd McLeish. Let’s see who bites... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Trolling at maximum level in this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 Just now, nick76 said: Trolling at maximum level in this thread! Nice counter arguments there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted March 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2020 Ah f**k it. On the train so I’ll join in. 8th Garde - Truly awful appointment 7th RDM - wasn’t really given long enough but the lack of balance in the team he assembled was a joke. 6th Mcleish - yes he kept us up but he also had a squad that had finished top 10 4 seasons in a row (minus a few big sales). His appointment was the beginning of the end. Shocking appointment. 5th Sherwood - didn’t really know what he was doing but kept us up and got us to an FA cup final. The win at Wembley over Liverpool is a great memory. 4th Houllier - changed too much too quickly. I think he was on the right path though. 3rd - Bruce - he had a good crack at getting us up. I’d have him further down for how he left our defence if the other appointments weren't so bad. 2nd - Lambert - it was dire but some how he managed to keep us up each season on a shoe string budget. 1st - Smith - Bought the crowds back to Villa park. Got us 10 wins in a row. Played some of the best football in years. Got us 2 Wembley appearances, one being one of the best memories in recent history. Yes struggling this season. But will never forget what he achieved last season and the joy he bought back to the club after years of misery. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted March 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Stopped reading once i saw Smith's name Edit: you know what, going to give my answer as it's not a bad idea for a thread even if it's started by a troll 8th: Garde 7th: McLeish 6th: RDM 5th: Sherwood 4th: Houlier 3rd: Bruce 2nd: Lambert 1st: Smith Edited March 4, 2020 by tomav84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1st Mcleish. Unleashed the potential of No.10 Heskey. Era defining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1st Smith. Everyone else was part of the demise of this football club. Smith has bought it back to where it is now. Maybe slightly harsh on Houllier, who id put second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Joint 8th: Garde, McLeish, RDM 5th: Sherwood 4th: Bruce 3rd: Houllier 2nd: Lambert 1st: Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post terrytini Posted March 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2020 21 minutes ago, Mjvilla said: 1st Smith. Everyone else was part of the demise of this football club. Smith has bought it back to where it is now. Maybe slightly harsh on Houllier, who id put second. Deano way out in front for me, and I agree we are where we are now because of him....but I’d disagree with your assessment that Bruce was part of our demise. We were still a basket case of a Club when he took over. In fact we hadn’t reached our lowest. We could’ve sunk without trace. I think it’d be a shame if his contribution to preventing that got lost. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 What an absolute shower of shit we've had for managers. Granted we've changed owners more than some teams change managers but where is the red line with managers? I get Houllier appointment, but from that to McLeish? Then I guess Lambert is Scottish so there is that. And then on to Sherwood who isn't a manager but just some guy who used to play football and same goes for Garde I don't even think wanted to be a manager, at least not then. RDM? Same there he hasn't even managed since. Bruce was a panic appointment, job for the boys short term thinking that stayed on too long. Smith? Again a total 180, thank god. Worked wonders in the Championship, PL probably a couple of years too soon for the PL Not even a fraction of a hint that any of our appointments have been thought over, well planned or done with long term thinking. Shambles of a club for so long. Would be great if these new guys know what they are doing. Time will tell, just hope they don't lose interest. As for ranking the managers? Smith goes first since, well promotion (and a cup run). After that I don't care. At least Houllier tried to change stuff and had an idea moving forward. He failed thou. Just utter crap, no real point ranking the most polished turds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, sne said: What an absolute shower of shit we've had for managers. Granted we've changed owners more than some teams change managers but where is the red line with managers? I get Houllier appointment, but from that to McLeish? Then I guess Lambert is Scottish so there is that. And then on to Sherwood who isn't a manager but just some guy who used to play football and same goes for Garde I don't even think wanted to be a manager, at least not then. RDM? Same there he hasn't even managed since. Bruce was a panic appointment, job for the boys short term thinking that stayed on too long. Smith? Again a total 180, thank god. Worked wonders in the Championship, PL probably a couple of years too soon for the PL Not even a fraction of a hint that any of our appointments have been thought over, well planned or done with long term thinking. Shambles of a club for so long. Would be great if these new guys know what they are doing. Time will tell, just hope they don't lose interest. As for ranking the managers? Smith goes first since, well promotion (and a cup run). After that I don't care. At least Houllier tried to change stuff and had an idea moving forward. He failed thou. Just utter crap, no real point ranking the most polished turds. Doesn't your post just highlight the need of the changes we currently are working on, i.e. a club philosophy and way of playing football that runs through the club. Thus new managers will suit the club and not making the club adapt to a new manager. Anyway, this is deffo a thread that should be closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 minute ago, KenjiOgiwara said: Doesn't your post just highlight the need of the changes we currently are working on, i.e. a club philosophy and way of playing football that runs through the club. Thus new managers will suit the club and not making the club adapt to a new manager. Anyway, this is deffo a thread that should be closed. Yeah I hope that's what the club is working towards. Smith was also a panic appointment so if he is what the club want's going forward remains to be seen, new contract and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nick76 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Ah f**k it. On the train so I’ll join in. 8th Garde - Truly awful appointment 7th RDM - wasn’t really given long enough but the lack of balance in the team he assembled was a joke. 6th Mcleish - yes he kept us up but he also had a squad that had finished top 10 4 seasons in a row (minus a few big sales). His appointment was the beginning of the end. Shocking appointment. 5th Sherwood - didn’t really know what he was doing but kept us up and got us to an FA cup final. The win at Wembley over Liverpool is a great memory. 4th Houllier - changed too much too quickly. I think he was on the right path though. 3rd - Bruce - he had a good crack at getting us up. I’d have him further down for how he left our defence if the other appointments weren't so bad. 2nd - Lambert - it was dire but some how he managed to keep us up each season on a shoe string budget. 1st - Smith - Bought the crowds back to Villa park. Got us 10 wins in a row. Played some of the best football in years. Got us 2 Wembley appearances, one being one of the best memories in recent history. Yes struggling this season. But will never forget what he achieved last season and the joy he bought back to the club after years of misery. Agree with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Since O’Neill, we’ve had a lot of bad managers. It’s difficult because none of them have really done great. I’d say from worst to best: 9) Remi Garde – terrible rein. I actually think he could have been a good manager but he took over a side that wasn’t interested. 8. Eric Black – in charge for hardly any time but clearly didn’t know what to do 7) Di Matteo – appointed on the back of his CL success with Chelsea, but didn’t have a clue in all honesty 6) McLeish – dire football, no personality, awful signings, think we won 7 games all season but stayed up due to drawing a lot of games 5) Sherwood – personally thought he was a pretty awful manager but he did give us a much-needed bounce in 14/15 which kept us up, was a bit unlucky the following season as Lerner threw him under the bus by selling Delph and Benteke, I thought his signings were the right idea but just didn’t pay off (Traore, Veretout, Gueye, Amavi and Ayew all had a lot of talent but weren’t utilised properly) 4) Lambert - how on earth you have him so high I don’t understand, he had a tough time here under Lerner but had the personality of a wet fish, we were smashed 8-0 by Chelsea while he was here, we got knocked out of the League Cup by feckin Bradford, the nice football we were supposed to play never materialised, he did sign Benteke and Vlaar though 3) Smith – very good Championship manager but relied on one player to get us up (remember that terrible form between December and March), plays attacking football, but very naïve manager, can’t get his side to defend properly, I hope I’m proven wrong about him but as he still hasn’t changed his ways I think he’ll be gone by the end of the season 2) Bruce – defensive manager but he stabilised us, we were terrible before he came, he got us to the playoff final in his first full season, but deserved to go when he did (it wasn’t working), signings were very good I’d say but get that there were too many loans and older players, I’ll get criticised for putting him above Dean but to be honest there’s not too much between them in what they’ve done for us as I think Smith would have lost to that Fulham team in 17/18 as well 1) Houllier – actually liked him, personally thought he was better than O’Neill but operating under tighter circumstances (though did get to sign Bent), best football we’ve played in the last 10 years was under him, but we did struggle a lot that season so many Villa fans write him off as being terrible, if he’d stayed on and been backed we wouldn’t have gone the way we did Edited March 4, 2020 by VillaFaninLondon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted March 4, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2020 Smith Bruce Houllier Lambert McLeish RDM Garde Sherwood 10 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Nice counter arguments there. it’s one of my specialities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: how on earth you have him so high I don’t understand Because i look at accomplishments. Not style of football or whether i like the guy or not. In fact i disliked Lambert. Lambert was given the task to rebuild the squad on a shoe string budget. He was forced to recruit players from the lower leagues and from the youth team. That he managed to keep us up for 2 seasons is impressive. Doesn't matter if you like the man or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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