Greenfly Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I'm seeing lots of people on social media saying they hope he (or Barry) becomes our next hero. I hope he comes good and does well for us, but I don't want him to become our next talisman or anything. No club competing at the very top of football has a talisman (with the exception of Barca until now, but Messi is a whole different level of player so it's bound to happen). Talismans are for wannabes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Doubt it mate I would say you are correct but he didn’t half look at home yesterday with the first team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Just now, Follyfoot said: I would say you are correct but he didn’t half look at home yesterday with the first team Fair play to the lad. I like him a lot. Today’s team may give us an indication of the team to play Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Fair play to the lad. I like him a lot. Today’s team may give us an indication of the team to play Watford. Hopefully, looking forward to it. With regard to Carney you could see the muscle he has put on that was reported Edited August 8, 2021 by Follyfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: I would say you are correct but he didn’t half look at home yesterday with the first team Agree, without overhyping him, physically and technically he looked comfortable albeit in a 20 minute hi-tempo, hi-press 9v9. I do think he will get minutes this year from the bench for sure, not sure Deano will throw him in against Watford who tend to have some muscle in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 This kid is going to be huge for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I still wouldn’t be surprised to see him go out on loan , currently we have 7 central midfielder , that’s a fair bit of competition, I agree he looks comfortable among the first team but we’ve invested a full season in Ramsey who I think will feature as much this season, Carney might very well be the better of the two but if he doesn’t get enough minutes then a loan would be better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 27 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: I still wouldn’t be surprised to see him go out on loan , currently we have 7 central midfielder , that’s a fair bit of competition, I agree he looks comfortable among the first team but we’ve invested a full season in Ramsey who I think will feature as much this season, Carney might very well be the better of the two but if he doesn’t get enough minutes then a loan would be better. It depends how he is looked at by Deano. He played alot of football at 10 last season . Even though he is physically reminiscent of a CM . He could even play the Greedish role such is his touch and vision and guile. He has such quick feet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 51 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: I still wouldn’t be surprised to see him go out on loan , currently we have 7 central midfielder , that’s a fair bit of competition, I agree he looks comfortable among the first team but we’ve invested a full season in Ramsey who I think will feature as much this season, Carney might very well be the better of the two but if he doesn’t get enough minutes then a loan would be better. In my opinion Ramsey is far more likely to go out on loan with one eye on moving him on. I don't think he's of the required standard, at the moment, and the only way he is ever going to reach that standard is with consistent game time. Chukwuemeka as a 17(!) year old looks a class above anything our youth team have produced since Grealish and he is one of few in that kinda bracket since I have been supporting the club. Cahill is the only other who stands out, or Barry if you count him. So we are talking elite level talent. There's a high bust rate with players of his type, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him break through this season. He will be this seasons Ramsey, only he's a better player, so more likely to end up taking the mantle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 He yet to do a interview yet. Do you think hes getting training in this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I think that if you even just watch his finishing you can see how different it is to alot of others at that age. He can place it extremely well. He can hit with real power and he can manipulate the ball easily to either finish low or high. His second goal in the newcastle youth cup game and the opener against west brom made me watch them over and over . Aaron is a great goal getting midfielder but at higher levels just like his brother i think he will find it far more difficult. Carney i think would be prolific in the Premier . He just has something really special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Greenfly said: No club competing at the very top of football has a talisman (with the exception of Barca until now, but Messi is a whole different level of player so it's bound to happen). Talismans are for wannabes Hmm not totally sure about that. Gerrard for Liverpool, Ronaldo for Madrid, Cantona for United, Henry for Arsenal, Messi for Barcelona as you say - most top teams I can remember had someone pretty talismanic. But I agree with the idea we don’t want to be a one-man team - in fact am really glad that people won’t be able to bang on about that this season (unless we struggle I guess and then they’ll say it’s proof we were one….) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Follyfoot said: Hopefully, looking forward to it. With regard to Carney you could see the muscle he has put on that was reported love your avatar! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 15 mins of Caaaaaarney. Really good watch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 So excited to see his development in the squad this season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Yeah I'd keep him around and feed him in as the season develops. He's special, and could be solidly first team next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 8, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, nick76 said: love your avatar! And yours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Just now, Follyfoot said: And yours I don't even want to see a pissed up passed out Grealish! Get it away from my eyesss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 11 hours ago, Greenfly said: I'm seeing lots of people on social media saying they hope he (or Barry) becomes our next hero. I hope he comes good and does well for us, but I don't want him to become our next talisman or anything. No club competing at the very top of football has a talisman (with the exception of Barca until now, but Messi is a whole different level of player so it's bound to happen). Talismans are for wannabes. What does that even mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 12 hours ago, Greenfly said: I'm seeing lots of people on social media saying they hope he (or Barry) becomes our next hero. I hope he comes good and does well for us, but I don't want him to become our next talisman or anything. No club competing at the very top of football has a talisman (with the exception of Barca until now, but Messi is a whole different level of player so it's bound to happen). Talismans are for wannabes. Messi, Ronaldo, Gerrard (Suarez, Torres), Lampard (Drogba, Hazard). Henry (and every other hero Arsenal have had and lost) Just because it hurts to lose them doesn't.mean we shouldn't want heroes. We just shouldn't be reliant on them difference is we only had Jack. Those others had more around them but still very much the heroes of their respective teams and squads. We should be targetting more great players but nothing wrong with wanting a new hero. Unless Louie Barry becomes world class tough I'll never feel the way about any of our academy kids as I did about Jack 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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