Awol Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Okonokos said: Rashica is much better played centrally. I don't see him as a winger. ——————-—Origi—————— SB————JG——Rashica——SJM ———————Luiz———————— These would be good problems to have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 04/08/2020 at 21:18, Villan_of_oz said: He has had history with refusing to play for Scotland. Did you know you that? How many other Premier League players refused to extend their contract out of the 20 teams? Fraser is a word removed! I wasn't aware that he refused to play for Scotland, but he certainly isnt the first player to have done that, and i'm not aware of his reasons for doing it....are you ? How do you feel about United blocking Smalling from extending his loan at Roma to play in the Champions League ? Surely it's the same thing ? Players, Clubs, Fans we're all looking after number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, Awol said: ———————Origi———————— Benrahma——JG——Watkins/Rashica —————Luiz———SJM—————— Savage I do not want Robbie Savage anywhere near Aston Villa Football Club. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Okonokos said: Rashica is much better played centrally. I don't see him as a winger. Huh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 You beat me to it, @dubbs! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Okonokos said: No to Origi. We need better. Yeah I agree we shouldn't be going for the 2nd striker at the best club on the planet right now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Okonokos said: No to Origi. We need better. Who would you like to get that is better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, jim said: Yeah I agree we shouldn't be going for the 2nd striker at the best club on the planet right now. Liverpool fans on twitter seem to rate him highly, most think he’s too good for us but would do excellently at Villa. They also seem to think it would take 25-30M to land him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 6, 2020 My Liverpool supporting mate said: “I think he nearly went to Wolfsburg on a permanent deal for 23m a few years back but got a chance to come back and get games. A bit like Ings wouldn’t surprise me to see divock getting 15-20 goals a season. He’s got a good shot on him. Good player - just not as good as mane or salah” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, KMitch said: Huh... I've watched every Bremen game this season. He's at his best when he's played as a striker as part of a front 2. Play him next to a big number 9 to hold it up and flick it on to him and he'll run in behind and cause chaos for defences. He's wasted out wide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, alreadyexists said: My Liverpool supporting mate said: “I think he nearly went to Wolfsburg on a permanent deal for 23m a few years back but got a chance to come back and get games. A bit like Ings wouldn’t surprise me to see divock getting 15-20 goals a season. He’s got a good shot on him. Good player - just not as good as mane or salah” Say £25M for proven at this level (and higher) versus £40M for a younger kid at Celtic playing lower end of the Championship standard teams. I reckon Origi Is much less of a gamble, and the difference in price + 3M gives you Ollie Watkins as a spare striker or right forward. Makes lots of sense to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: Who would you like to get that is better? Weghorst, Kramaric, Edouard, Volland, Watkins, Schick, Poulsen, Belotti, Berardi, Willian Jose... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, jim said: Yeah I agree we shouldn't be going for the 2nd striker at the best club on the planet right now. Wouldn't the best club on the planet most likely be found in the Champions League? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) Watkins Eze Origi Aarons Jamal Lewis Baptise Santa Maria Good window? Edited August 6, 2020 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Origi would be a good signing. He needs to play week in week out really. He scored 2 in a champions league semi final and 1 in a final. Not bad for a player some would say is not good enough for us. People questioning his quality are way off the mark. He is definitely good enough. It's the price that worries me. Barring him forcing a move away, Liverpool could easily demand 30 million as a starting point for negotiations. Liverpool bought him for 10 million. We need to focus on finding the next Origi. Easier said than done, I know, but we just aren't in the position to pay the premium rate for a striker like Origi or Iheanacho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ_1874 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) To put things in context some stats on Origi v Wesley v Tammy Wesley Shots per game = 1.77 Shot on target = 48.2% Goals per shot = 0.14 Expect goals and assists per 90 = 0.30 Origi Shots per game = 1.75 Shots on target % = 42.9% Goals per shot = 0.29 Expect goals and assists per 90 = 0.28 Tammy Shot per game = 3.58 Shots on target = 39.8% Goal per shot = 0.17 Expect goals and assists per 90 = 0.69 Tammy takes way more shots than both which is party due to Chelsea creating more but also his movement and ability to get into goal scoring positions. Origi is pretty poor in all measures apart from the goals per shot but his expected goals and assists suggest he was lucky to score what he did last season and actually is not much better than Wesley if not worse considering he got the same stats in one of the best teams in Europe? Whereas Tammy has a much higher expected goals and assists showing he is getting into very good goal scoring positions and creating chances. Tammy is by far the best of the three. Edited August 6, 2020 by MJ_1874 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 6, 2020 Author Share Posted August 6, 2020 Still waiting for some fan from some random club to pop up in this thread or a player speculation thread. That's when you know signing is close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MJ_1874 said: To put things in context some stats on Origi v Wesley v Tammy Wesley Shots per game = 1.77 Shot on target = 48.2% Goals per shot = 0.14 Expect goals and assists per 90 = 0.30 Origi Shots per game = 1.75 Shots on target % = 42.9% Goals per shot = 0.29 Expect goals and assists per 90 = 0.28 Tammy Shot per game = 3.58 Shots on target = 39.8% Goal per shot = 0.17 Expect goals and assists per 90 = 0.69 Tammy takes way more shots than both which is party due to Chelsea creating more but also his movement and ability to get into goal scoring positions. Origi is pretty poor in all measures apart from the goals per shot but his expected goals and assists suggest he was lucky to score what he did last season and actually is not much better than Wesley if not worse considering he got the same stats in one of the best teams in Europe? Whereas Tammy has a much higher expected goals and assists showing he is getting into very good goal scoring positions and creating chances. Tammy is by far the best of the three. Is this per 90 or per game? Origi starts a lot less than the other two. Therefore, there could be a big caveat. Edited August 6, 2020 by sparrow1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Watkins Benrahma Origi Aarons Jamal Lewis Baptise Santa Maria Good window? Dreamland. 50 points plus next season with that I reckon - if we keep Grealish. Also a young side with plenty of growth potential too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ_1874 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) Some more stats..... Iheanacho Shot per game = 3.12 Shots on target = 52.9% Goal per shot = 0.15 Expect goals and assists per 90 = 0.68 Iheanacho looks pretty close to Tammy's level. Edouard Shot per game = 4.29 Shots on target = 45% Goal per shot = 0.21 Expect goals and assists per 90 = 1.29 As expected Edouard has he best stats considering the level he plays at but shots on target/goals per shot should reflect innate finishing ability and transfer to a higher level to a certain extent.... Edited August 6, 2020 by MJ_1874 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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