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On 30/07/2020 at 14:35, jonjon said:

Total Myth, that was pure press talk from nowhere, no release clause at all in his contract, and there never was or is,  the only clause is that Exeter get a percentage of his sell on fee. 

BBC also seem to think it's an £18m buyout.

Enjoy your £18m. I estimate you can buy 3x £25m players with that money

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10 minutes ago, bobzy said:

Lazy comparison because Hogan was also at Brentford?  Watkins seems to be getting better every season.

I don't get these lazy comparisons. Recent ones to memory: Salifu and Nakamba, the Exeter kid we're meant to be signing and Bedeau. There are more. The brain tries to catagorise things in short cut ways, but surely giving an extra second to these thoughts reveals how pointless that is. A 2 second comparison between Watkins and Hogan might likely reveal there is more to differentiate them beyond 'they both played up front for Brentford', or they're both African midfielders, or they're both young.

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3 minutes ago, useless said:

I've seen quite a bit of Brentford this season and Watkins is much better than Hogan and a completely different type player really, has easilly been the best striker in the championship, better than Mitrovic.

The problem with signing him for the £20m plus that it would take, is that if we spend that much on him we aren't then going to spend another £30m or so on someone like Edouard, Abraham, Iheanacho and so on, if he signs he will be our main striker signing, so it becomes a question as to whether we'd be better of paying around £20m for him hoping he can make the step up, or paying more for someone more proven at an higher level.

We cannot afford to be gung ho with gambles.

Every player offers a risk.....but we must be more vigilant in lowering the odds.

The championship clubs have created this £20 million trend.....every half decent player is £20 million according to them.....its a lot of money to risk.

In terms of a striker, I think we should be as close to being damn sure as possible, before we part with our dough.

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1 minute ago, Eastie said:

Watkins buyout clause can now be activated at £18m after last nights defeat - could be worth it at that price 

I thought he struggled against Michael Hector.....just one game I know.....but there are better defenders than Michael Hector in the Prem.

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4 minutes ago, TRO said:

I thought he struggled against Michael Hector.....just one game I know.....but there are better defenders than Michael Hector in the Prem.

Yeah but Hector is obviously a 40m championship defender who is premiership ready........

So if Hector had Watkins in his pocket, that defo makes Watkins worth 35m.

We should sign bannan for 30m too.

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5 minutes ago, TRO said:

I thought he struggled against Michael Hector.....just one game I know.....but there are better defenders than Michael Hector in the Prem.

Interestingly, I thought the opposite.  Hector is a unit, but Watkins was more than a match for him physically.  Particularly enjoyed the ball over the top where Hector was huge favourite to win it, Watkins chested the ball up and kept possession. 

IMO he looks a good prospect, but I wouldn't want him as our #1 striker.

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3 hours ago, punkiller1981 said:

Cairney often looks good in the championship I think the season they beat us he was the leagues player of the season. The problem with him is he Wanders and walks around way to much so as soon  as he gets to the premier league looks so far out of his depth that I doubt he could ever make it In the premier and now he is too old as well

Fair point.

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4 minutes ago, bobzy said:

Interestingly, I thought the opposite.  Hector is a unit, but Watkins was more than a match for him physically.  Particularly enjoyed the ball over the top where Hector was huge favourite to win it, Watkins chested the ball up and kept possession. 

IMO he looks a good prospect, but I wouldn't want him as our #1 striker.

well thats the point.....we need a No1 striker.....no more potential, we have that.

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12 minutes ago, TRO said:

I thought he struggled against Michael Hector.....just one game I know.....but there are better defenders than Michael Hector in the Prem.

I agree with that, thought hector was excellent. Watkins done ok but was kept very quiet. In comparison to the second leg against Swansea when he was brilliant. Shows how he was nullified by a decent CB. Really good CB in the premier league will make mince meat of him as a striker. Édouard looks a lot more physical, granted I haven't seen him play.

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To bw fair thiught brentford were not creating much for watkins. He was having to come in deep to try get the ball.

For 18m i think thats not a bad deal.  Id be tempted to offer them davis and aome cash. 

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1 minute ago, Mjvilla said:

I agree with that, thought hector was excellent. Watkins done ok but was kept very quiet. In comparison to the second leg against Swansea when he was brilliant. Shows how he was nullified by a decent CB. Really good CB in the premier league will make mince meat of him as a striker. Édouard looks a lot more physical, granted I haven't seen him play.

Watkins is probably better than our fringe players, but that more to do with how average we have bought.

We need 4 stand out players this window.....ones who will be effective.

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2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said:

To bw fair thiught brentford were not creating much for watkins. He was having to come in deep to try get the ball.

For 18m i think thats not a bad deal.  Id be tempted to offer them davis and aome cash. 

They wasn't allowed to.....Fulham were tactically spot on.

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1 minute ago, Indigo said:

Personally I'd have Edouard over Watkins all day, even for whatever the extra cost would be.

Also with the massive caveat that we keep Jack, as much as I do rate Benrahma I've never been that enthused by the idea of getting him. Jack has been demonstrably better on the left than through the middle this season, I don't doubt he's talented enough to play both roles but he's our best player by a mile and by extension we should probably play him where we can get the most out of him. Benrahma can play on the right but at his best he's playing off the left and in a relatively similar fashion to Jack. I'm not against signing him but I'd rather see us go all in on a specialist right winger with pace to offer a balance in the forward line, and then a centre mid with a bit of presence to again give some balance to the midfield with McGinn and Douglas. As much as all 3 of them are quality players, the midfield I've seen people list of Jack-McGinn-Douglas is one you can just see getting overrun in games.

Doesn't have to literally be these players, but a front 6 with the tools of the below would be a better all round fit and more consistently dangerous than one that shoehorns similar attributes in like Jack/Benrahma/Buendia would.

Jack-Edouard-Sarr

McKennie-Luiz-McGinn

very good post IMO

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5 hours ago, Follyfoot said:

I think Sadly all three never played at the same time together. Acre used to run the length of the pitch with the ball balancing on his neck during the warmup according to my old man 

You would be right.....but it wasn't quoted for accuracy.

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