KMitch Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: The Barkley link is legit, not to say it will happen but it is 100% legit. Loan with option to buy, wages part funded by Chelsea. I thought our game against Sheff United showed how much we need a number 8 and Barkely could be a very shrewd addition in my view. I liked Loftus-Cheek or liked, personally I think he is crooked now so wouldn't go for him personally and I think we would be wary after Drinkwater but Barkely, if we can do it would be a good move. Barkley would be a phenomenal signing... Would be a massive upgrade on Hourihane and if we're able to still sign Rashica, we would now have a competitive first team squad and some impact subs/decent cover on the bench. Also, I'm with you on RLC. Too many injuries, but that was Mings's reputation before he came to us as well. Who knows? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 PremNews retweeted his Sept 17th tweet AVFC enquiring about Barkley saying Tier 1 journalists catching up. Has been right about loads of other club signings ahead of the curve. Tweeted about 4 days ago Rashica will go down to close of window 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, KMitch said: Also, I'm with you on RLC. Too many injuries, but that was Mings's reputation before he came to us as well. Who knows? Mings didn't rupture his achilles 2 seasons ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Not against Barkleyy but still think we still need another defensive minded midfielder. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: Mings didn't rupture his achilles 2 seasons ago No, but he did tear his ACL & MCL in 2016 and was out for a really long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, jacketspuds said: No to Loftus-Cheek, mostly because of his injury record. He could be another Mings type inspired signing. But he could also be another like Wilshere who has glass legs. A loan to buy option suits all parties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockStockVilla Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, joshharris12 said: Looking at it Chelsea have so many centre mids so may be legs in Barkley terry/Chelsea connection will help. 100% would be a big improvement for villa Any word on Josh King signing? Think you had that as confirmed quite a few weeks back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Sign him up! Made for us https://mobile.twitter.com/ChelseaFCGH_/status/1308865707942334466 I know you are joking, but in the sense that he's imperfect, he IS also perfect for us. We are not the finished article in any way, but we are starting to look like a nicely blended team of intelligent guesses and ambitious punts.... AKA Trying to fast track success... Edited September 23, 2020 by Lerner's Driver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, Lerner's Driver said: I know you are joking, but in the sense that he's imperfect, he IS perfect for us. We are not the finished article in any way, but we are starting to look like a nicely blended team of intelligent guesses and ambitious punts.... AKA Trying to fast track success... He's too good not to be playing week in week out and would improve us 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, Kiwivillan said: He's too good not to be playing week in week out and would improve us Absolutely. He comes across as one of those players who needs a bit of love and you ain't getting any of that working in the Chelsea diamond mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, TrentVilla said: The Barkley link is legit, not to say it will happen but it is 100% legit. Loan with option to buy, wages part funded by Chelsea. I thought our game against Sheff United showed how much we need a number 8 and Barkely could be a very shrewd addition in my view. I like Loftus-Cheek or liked, personally I think he is crocked now so wouldn't go for him personally and I think we would be wary after Drinkwater but Barkely, if we can do it would be a good move. I agree that we need a number 8 and it is not CH. It should be SJM (with Jack at 10) but we need cover for SJM. Swift is probably the best cover I have seen mooted as he is young, would potentially be happy to play second fiddle and has a great engine with goal/assist output? For me, RLC has it all and could be the best English no. 8 in the country if he applied himself and can stay fit, but both are a big concern for me so I would probably steer clear. Barkley is a younger CH for me - goal threat/strong shot BUT adds nothing else and is certainly not a no. 8. I find it unbelievable how he has been anywhere near the England squad in recent times. For me, our midfield (assuming DS will play the 4-3-3 he virtually always does) should be Dougie L - SJM (8) - Jack (10) and the cover should be Nakamba - Swift - Hourihane/Ramsey although, personally, I would love it if we could sell Nakamba and CH and re-invest the c.£20m into Billings. Obviously the above means that we need to sign a LW (Rashica or Benrhama please) to allow Jack to drop back in which I am desperately hoping we will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Don't understand the anti-loan sentiment by most. Loans are to plug gaps for the short-term. CM is clearly a weakness and if we have not found a player we can purchase at the right price, then we definitely should be loaning someone. It also allows us to spend money on other areas. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 A loan for RLC makes a lot of sense for us, I even suggested it when the season ended as I felt we wouldn’t be able to fill out the team u less we had a couple of hundred million. a loan to buy would be best but take what you can get. I would still look at buying will Hughes for 7m too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, barry'sboots said: I agree that we need a number 8 and it is not CH. It should be SJM (with Jack at 10) but we need cover for SJM. Swift is probably the best cover I have seen mooted as he is young, would potentially be happy to play second fiddle and has a great engine with goal/assist output? For me, RLC has it all and could be the best English no. 8 in the country if he applied himself and can stay fit, but both are a big concern for me so I would probably steer clear. Barkley is a younger CH for me - goal threat/strong shot BUT adds nothing else and is certainly not a no. 8. I find it unbelievable how he has been anywhere near the England squad in recent times. For me, our midfield (assuming DS will play the 4-3-3 he virtually always does) should be Dougie L - SJM (8) - Jack (10) and the cover should be Nakamba - Swift - Hourihane/Ramsey although, personally, I would love it if we could sell Nakamba and CH and re-invest the c.£20m into Billings. Obviously the above means that we need to sign a LW (Rashica or Benrhama please) to allow Jack to drop back in which I am desperately hoping we will do. Billing is shit. Big boofhead that can't pass, doesn't suit our system and has got relegated back to back with 2 different teams Edited September 24, 2020 by Kiwivillan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Villaphil said: Thanks.... Agree Konsa has been impressive, but going off the stated aims of the owners, presumably you’d be happy if we got Tarkowski for 40m ? Nope, Tarkowski at 40m is just daft. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, nepal_villan said: Don't understand the anti-loan sentiment by most. Loans are to plug gaps for the short-term. CM is clearly a weakness and if we have not found a player we can purchase at the right price, then we definitely should be loaning someone. It also allows us to spend money on other areas. Couldn’t agree more. In 12-18 months time Ramsey is that no 8 for us, so loan him out to the Championship and bring in RLC on loan for this season. Edited September 24, 2020 by rayk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, rayk said: Nope, Tarkowski at 40m is just daft. I agree but still better deal than what Manure payed for slabhead Maguire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, LockStockVilla said: Any word on Josh King signing? Think you had that as confirmed quite a few weeks back. Don’t tempt fate..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: I did average comparison to account for different minutes played. RLC was even worse. Like 80% for McGinn Actually went like McGinn>Hourihane>Barkley>Daylight>RLC Kiwi - how do your stats on something like tackles factor in the fact that Chelsea might have the ball twice as much as us, so have less tackles to make? Just curious! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 27 minutes ago, rayk said: Couldn’t agree more. In 12-18 months time Ramsey is that no 8 for us, so loan him out to the Championship and bring in RLC on loan for this season. Right - people say ‘why develop a player for someone else?’ - well sometimes it should be so one of our players can be developing elsewhere... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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