nick76 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, OxfordVillan said: No way at £50m. Not much more than £30m for me. But isn’t that like what we say about Man Utd fans views about Grealish. He’s worth what he’s worth, you either pay it or you don’t. I don’t see many alternatives and especially alternatives that aren’t high risk. I say do it and sign him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, AVTuco said: Have Smith, Purslow and Lange even sat down yet? I'm getting anxious. If not in person there are Things like zoom - they may be having a short break but I’m sure they keep in contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Just now, nick76 said: But isn’t that like what we say about Man Utd fans views about Grealish. He’s worth what he’s worth, you either pay it or you don’t. I don’t see many alternatives and especially alternatives that aren’t high risk. I say do it and sign him. I’d think £40m may tempt them , I agree , we know what he can do so less risk - go get him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 46 minutes ago, skell said: All this transfer talk is interesting but let's not forget wages. Doesnt Tammy want around 150,000 a week at Chelsea. Isnt Grealish on around 60000 a week. We have to be realistic and I dont think we will pay more than 60,000 a week. Forget the defence we are fine. Give me Benrahma, another striker, a winger and a central midfielder. If we want to move to mid table we are going to have to get better quality and that means more money on wages. Wilson is on 110k per week at Bmouth. If we still at top of sixty grand then we will be fighting relegation every week. I’d rather pay an extra 40k a week for Tammy than Wilson for example. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Eastie said: I’d think £40m may tempt them , I agree , we know what he can do so less risk - go get him Yeah I agree I don’t know what the number is but less risk is a massive positive for me. I’d rather pay over the top for less risk than smaller value for a high risk. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 If Villa would bring in any one of these five players this Summer I would be very happy. Nike Pope - Burnley Axel Tuanzebe - Man Utd Ademola Lookman - RB Leipzig Gerard Delufeou - Watford Tammy Abraham - Chelsea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted August 1, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, nick76 said: Yeah I agree I don’t know what the number is but less risk is a massive positive for me. I’d rather pay over the top for less risk than smaller value for a high risk. Agreed. We definitely need to take less risks with our signings this year. Also could do without waiting 6months for players to settle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: If Brentford don’t go up we need to go all out for Watkins. He looks a really tidy player and will work hard. My dream signings would be: Watkins, Abraham, Sarr and Buendia. Perfect blend of pace, skill and hard work. The lack of a keeper would worry me. Heaton is basically Darren Anderton with gloves on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 minute ago, PieFacE said: Agreed. We definitely need to take less risks with our signings this year. Also could do without waiting 6months for players to settle. Plus I’m still waiting to hear who this striker is that is better value than Tammy that we could realistically get, wants to come here and isn’t high risk of new country, language and as you say settling in period. If there is a player, bring him forward otherwise I want Tammy and will pay handsomely for him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 43 minutes ago, PieFacE said: I mean, Wesley was also injured for half a season so it's unknown how much he would have scored. Though, look at other clubs and the players they are signing... Haller for £50m, Joelinton (sp) for £40m. Strikers are pricey. No doubt there's better deals out there, not disputing that. Though, I have no idea who they are or if we can even attract them? Will teams want to sell their best assets to us on the cheap when looking at the fees paid for other strikers? I think it's incredibly unlikely. Sorry, I was referring to you saying that £25m will get you 6-10 goals. I think there are far better deals to be done if we recruit wisely. People always mention the Joelintons, etc, but these are extremely poor signings, they're not the benchmark for £40m attackers. Off the top of my head, Andrej Kramaric, Florian Thauvin, Arkadiusz Milik, Paco Alcacer, Gerard Moreno, Filip Kostic, Quincy Promes, Kevin Volland, Bruno Henrique, Viktor Tsygankov, Edin Visca, and Giorgian De Arrascaeta are all really good attacking players that would cost far less than £40m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Moussa Dembele anyone? Was being linked to Chelsea before they signed Werner and in my opinion would be far better striker for us than Abraham. He is kind of the ideal we want wesley to develop into. He is fast strong and only 24. With the French season being suspended I could totally see him being available for under 40 million and in my mind that would be a coup. If we were going to spend 50 million on a striker it shouldn't be Tammy and should be someone like Dembele. If his price is reduced I would love to get him and karlan grant (who I think could score 10-15 in his first season with us if he started every game) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mat Kendrick's Dentist said: Sorry, I was referring to you saying that £25m will get you 6-10 goals. I think there are far better deals to be done if we recruit wisely. People always mention the Joelintons, etc, but these are extremely poor signings, they're not the benchmark for £40m attackers. Off the top of my head, Andrej Kramaric, Florian Thauvin, Arkadiusz Milik, Paco Alcacer, Gerard Moreno, Filip Kostic, Quincy Promes, Kevin Volland, Bruno Henrique, Viktor Tsygankov, Edin Visca, and Giorgian De Arrascaeta are all really good attacking players that would cost far less than £40m. All massive risks of even performing in the premier league and at least settling in. Still prefer Tammy! Edited August 1, 2020 by nick76 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, nick76 said: All massive risks of even performing in the premier league and at least settling in. No more than Dimitri Payet, Ngolo Kante, Riyad Mahrez, Bruno Fernandes, Ricardo Pereira and a million others were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, nick76 said: Plus I’m still waiting to hear who this striker is that is better value than Tammy that we could realistically get, wants to come here and isn’t high risk of new country, language and as you say settling in period. If there is a player, bring him forward otherwise I want Tammy and will pay handsomely for him. I agree. I would be happy if we paid up to £50m for him, whatever way it works out that we pay it. It's the wage factor with a catch 22 element. Go to Villa only on around 90k a week but guaranteed 1st team football in effect, and back to a club he knows with players he knows. Stay at Chelsea for around £150k a week but cannot be guaranteed enough assurances over how much playing time he gets. Euro 2020 next year and the lad will want playing time. I say we go get him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Watkins has now developed into a striker who would tick all the boxes for Villa, but he needs to play as one of a pacy and hyper mobile front three. It can be done with the right signings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, nick76 said: If there is a player, bring him forward otherwise I want Tammy and will pay handsomely for him. Well if you’re prepared to stump up the dosh, I say go for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skell Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mat Kendrick's Dentist said: No more than Dimitri Payet, Ngolo Kante, Riyad Mahrez, Bruno Fernandes, Ricardo Pereira and a million others were We cant afford to take the risk of.buying potential who aren't aware of how the premier league works 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Id love for Tammy to come back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Surely the first order of business is to sort the Grealish issue. That will dictate a lot of our moves in the transfer market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mat Kendrick's Dentist said: No more than Dimitri Payet, Ngolo Kante, Riyad Mahrez, Bruno Fernandes, Ricardo Pereira and a million others were and a million and more that were failures. We don’t have the luxury of getting it wrong, why take the risk for a few extra bucks, it makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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