MotoMkali Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, gurru991 said: Goals scored is not usually considered a benchmark for relegation. Goal difference or goals conceded is usually a more significant stat. By your thinking losing 8-4 to Liverpool would mean Villa avoid relegation ! You're deliberately ignoring the point. Generally if you are looking at 5 teams facing relegation and 2 reach 40 goals it is likely those 2 teams will stay up in favour of the other teams. This isn't a hard and fast rule aka Brighton, Newcastle and Crystal Palace. But it generally holds true and I think it will hold true this year as well. I think we can get a win against 2 of Crystal Palace, Everton and Arsenal because they will have **** all to play for and I think we can beat wet spam especially if they are already safe which I reckon is likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 5 hours ago, gurru991 said: Goals scored is not usually considered a benchmark for relegation. Goal difference or goals conceded is usually a more significant stat. By your thinking losing 8-4 to Liverpool would mean Villa avoid relegation ! Or you know, we could just use. Points? I hear that statistic is really good at deciding who is going to get relegated or not. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 8 hours ago, MotoMkali said: 40 goals has generally been the benchmark for teams avoiding relegation in past seasons with only 2 teams who have reached it going down in the last 10(?) seasons. Generally if you are crap being better at scoring than defending is what you want so we have sacrificed our attacking play for defensive play and it may screw us over. So 40 goals might not keep us up after all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2020 Unless Watford **** the dog, we are down. I hope this clears things up. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted July 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2020 Looking like we're down. We need to build for next season by getting in a more successful scouting team , one thats proven in the championship and league one. We need two new wide players, a holding midfielder and thats before anyone moves on. If we dont prepare now other teams will and we end up chasing our arse trying to rebuild from the back of the que Large parts of this team will not compete championship style . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Wins for Chelsea, Manchester United and Norwich today, would be nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, John said: Wins for Chelsea, Manchester United and Norwich today, would be nice! If Norwich win they are only 3 points behind us. I would prefer Brighton to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 No Dean. This isn't a 6 team battle. It's between Bournemouth , Villa and Watford. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, villalad21 said: No Dean. This isn't a 6 team battle. It's between Bournemouth , Villa and Watford. I don't agree with you often but I think you hit the nail on the head here. We won't beat Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal. Hopefully, Everton, Palace and West Ham have nothing to play for when we go up against them and we fight for points in those games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) Dont see a problem with his comments then again he seems to get pulled up by a certain poster for anything he does Bit petty and embarrassing Edited July 4, 2020 by Zatman 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Villarocker said: I don't agree with you often but I think you hit the nail on the head here. We won't beat Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal. Hopefully, Everton, Palace and West Ham have nothing to play for when we go up against them and we fight for points in those games. Newcastle had nothing to play for against Bournemouth yet they smashed them. Hope you are right though. But i don't think we'll get any easy games just because a team is safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 4, 2020 Feels a bit like the end of Sixth Sense - our best win was against the only team properly worse than us, but we'll look back on this as a vital year in our development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 hours ago, hippo said: So 40 goals might not keep us up after all ? So two teams who got it have gone down and 3 this year alone who've got less are safe, seems like a great stat... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 7 hours ago, villalad21 said: If Norwich win they are only 3 points behind us. I would prefer Brighton to win. You got your wish. If Norwich were going to finish above us with a win today, we would deserve to go down. I had written off Norwich, as it seems they have themselves. My focus was on staying above Bournemouth and not letting the clubs above us (including Brighton), build too wide a gap between themselves and us. We now have to set our sights on Watford and West Ham alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 minute ago, John said: You got your wish. If Norwich were going to finish above us with a win today, we would deserve to go down. I had written off Norwich, as it seems they have themselves. My focus was on staying above Bournemouth and not letting the clubs above us (including Brighton), build too wide a gap between themselves and us. We now have to set our sights on Watford and West Ham alone. Brighton would probably have survived even on 33 pts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) I’ve got a feeling our only win will come in the last game of the season. But by then West Ham will be safe and we’ll already be down. Edited July 4, 2020 by roonst83 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smg Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Sadly Arsenal looking good against Wolves tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 We really need Watford to lose tonight, badly would be nice. Let’s hope Chelsea actually turn against our fellow relegation rivals for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 On their day Arsenal are capable of beating anyone and they were always going to be favortes against us however well they played aganist Wolves today. One glimmer of hope is that just as much as they're capable of beating anyone they're also capable of losing to anyone. We'll be doing well to be still in with a chance of surviving by the time we play them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 We got robbed at Arsenal. For their penalty Geundouzi was holding Trezeguet's shirt before falling over. For their 3rd goal they had a player closer than a metre to our wall. Then to top it off Sokratis caught the ball in the box so we should have won a penalty. I sincerely hope we smash them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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