bickster Posted December 2, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Genie said: About about 420,000 doctors and nurses in the NHS too apparently. Its not just Doctors and Nurses though, Paramedics, cleaners, porters etc too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, bickster said: Its not just Doctors and Nurses though, Paramedics, cleaners, porters etc too Then you’ve got police to think about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 2, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Genie said: Then you’ve got police to think about They don't appear to be on the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) Confirmed today at my company we're working from home until at least April, no matter what. I love mostly working from home. I get more sleep, no rush hour stress, more comfortable, better desk and tech. But I'm going **** mental. I basically wake up, talk about work, get pissed, play with the cats, and go to bed. I miss the morning coffee run. I miss talking about what we watched on TV on the way to meetings. I miss pub lunches on quiet days. I'm realising how little I socialise outside of work. I feel like I'm approaching breaking point, I just don't know how much longer I can live like this. Today I made a coffee, then sat down on the stairs and just stared at the wall for a while, and realised my coffee was cold. I'm not ok and I can't live like this. Edited December 2, 2020 by Davkaus 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Confirmed today at my company we're working from home until at least April, no matter what. I love mostly working from home. I get more sleep, no rush hour stress, more comfortable, better desk and tech. But I'm going **** mental. I basically wake up, talk about work, get pissed, play with the cats, and go to bed. I miss the morning coffee run. I miss talking about what we watched on TV on the way to meetings. I miss pub lunches on quiet days. I'm realising how little I socialise outside of work. I feel like I'm approaching breaking point, I just don't know how much longer I can live like this. Today I made a coffee, then sat down on the stairs and just stared at the wall for a while, and realised my coffee was cold. I'm not ok and I can't live like this. That’s a real shame mate. I can relate to some of that, the border between work and home gets very blurred. The difference for me is that I work quite a long way from home (normally) and we don’t do pub lunches of anything like that. It’s very much work and keep your head down, zero fun or banter. I walk to an on-site Costa with a work mate/colleague in the morning but that’s it. My wife has been home 99.9% of the time and although that doesn’t sound ideal (it’s not) I think it’s kept me sane. If I was home alone for the working day I think I’d have gone mad. What has been a challenge has been changing to a different role a couple of weeks ago. It’s far harder to get up to speed WFH but all things considered it suits me. Edited December 2, 2020 by Genie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Genie said: . My wife has been home 99.9% of the time and although that doesn’t sound ideal (it’s not) I think it’s kept me sane. If I was home alone for the working day I think I’d have gone mad. I can see how that helps! I lived with my partner until May, then the pressures of lockdown basically split us up. We were engaged, and my wedding should have been a month ago. It definitely hasn't helped. At first I kind of liked having my own space and being independent, but it's true that we're social creatures. Even the most introverted of us don't want to live like this, We can form "bubbles", but my family live 2 hours away. I could form a bubble with a specific friend if I wanted to see them regularly, but I went for family instead. And there are 3 kids in that household so I don't even feel safe visiting at Christmas. I basically have to weigh up my safety vs the risk of going postal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: I can see how that helps! I lived with my partner until May, then the pressures of lockdown basically split us up. We were engaged, and my wedding should have been a month ago. It definitely hasn't helped. At first I kind of liked having my own space and being independent, but it's true that we're social creatures. Even the most introverted of us don't want to live like this, We can form "bubbles", but my family live 2 hours away. I could form a bubble with a specific friend if I wanted to see them regularly, but I went for family instead. And there are 3 kids in that household so I don't even feel safe visiting at Christmas. I basically have to weigh up my safety vs the risk of going postal. That sounds pretty dark mate, the good news seems to be that the end is in sight now. Hopefully Feb/March time we’re seeing something resembling the old normal and you can start hassling the ladies on Tinder to keep you busy Keep going 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 38 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Confirmed today at my company we're working from home until at least April, no matter what. I love mostly working from home. I get more sleep, no rush hour stress, more comfortable, better desk and tech. But I'm going **** mental. I basically wake up, talk about work, get pissed, play with the cats, and go to bed. I miss the morning coffee run. I miss talking about what we watched on TV on the way to meetings. I miss pub lunches on quiet days. I'm realising how little I socialise outside of work. I feel like I'm approaching breaking point, I just don't know how much longer I can live like this. Today I made a coffee, then sat down on the stairs and just stared at the wall for a while, and realised my coffee was cold. I'm not ok and I can't live like this. Sorry to hear you are feeling like that mate I think we're at home until March at the earliest. I generally prefer it. Have a lie in, less travel stress and I can arrange my day to suit my needs, including going food shopping on weekdays etc. I've been off work this week and its been quite tough, which has surprised me. Bizarrely I miss the human connection work gives me... catching up with colleagues, zoom calls and even chats with clients on the phone. It gives purpose to my day. I've barely muttered a word to anyone since Saturday. I generally have no reason to get out of bed in the morning this week. I've got to do a bit of shopping tomorrow, its the highlight of my week! I don't want to be back in the office 5 days a week... but 1 or 2 days would be great. Chance to chat to colleagues and have the occasional liquid lunch or scoop after work with people. Like you, I just don't socialise outside of work anymore. All my friends are settled down with kids or in different parts of the country. Keep hanging in there mate. It will get better once the vaccine is rolled out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted December 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Xela said: Sorry to hear you are feeling like that mate I think we're at home until March at the earliest. I generally prefer it. Have a lie in, less travel stress and I can arrange my day to suit my needs, including going food shopping on weekdays etc. I've been off work this week and its been quite tough, which has surprised me. Bizarrely I miss the human connection work gives me... catching up with colleagues, zoom calls and even chats with clients on the phone. It gives purpose to my day. I've barely muttered a word to anyone since Saturday. I generally have no reason to get out of bed in the morning this week. I've got to do a bit of shopping tomorrow, its the highlight of my week! I don't want to be back in the office 5 days a week... but 1 or 2 days would be great. Chance to chat to colleagues and have the occasional liquid lunch or scoop after work with people. Like you, I just don't socialise outside of work anymore. All my friends are settled down with kids or in different parts of the country. Keep hanging in there mate. It will get better once the vaccine is rolled out. I appreciate it, along with the other folks in the booze thread, I definitely want to have a pint or 5 with you when this is all over! It'd have been a lot harder to get through this year without you lot. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 38 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I appreciate it, along with the other folks in the booze thread, I definitely want to have a pint or 5 with you when this is all over! It'd have been a lot harder to get through this year without you lot. If you can work from anywhere, try going to another country to break up the monotony. If you come and work over here (get an AirBnb for 2 weeks or something), I'm sure both me and @fightoffyour will keep you company. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Let’s revisit the brexit wot won it idiot tweets from tories in a couple of months. I’m quite sure that with a 2 or 3 week head start on zee Germans we will obviously have rolled it out to everyone that really needs it 2 or 3 weeks before other Europeans countries do. Because anything less would surely prove the incompetence of the tory party and their head start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 2, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 2, 2020 Whilst we're on about vaccines and that Top 9. It’s bollocks As they are starting on the Pfizer vaccine, how do they propose to get that to all the oldest people first? The logistics of the Pfizer vaccine render it next to useless for people in a care / nursing home situation? The talk is of large regional facilities to deliver it like the Nightingale Hospitals which will also probably rule out a lot of the more able older people. That list is just propaganda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: Confirmed today at my company we're working from home until at least April, no matter what. I love mostly working from home. I get more sleep, no rush hour stress, more comfortable, better desk and tech. But I'm going **** mental. I basically wake up, talk about work, get pissed, play with the cats, and go to bed. I miss the morning coffee run. I miss talking about what we watched on TV on the way to meetings. I miss pub lunches on quiet days. I'm realising how little I socialise outside of work. I feel like I'm approaching breaking point, I just don't know how much longer I can live like this. Today I made a coffee, then sat down on the stairs and just stared at the wall for a while, and realised my coffee was cold. I'm not ok and I can't live like this. I’m with you mate, my place have said they’ll remain closed until effing June. I feel like I’m close to breaking point at times, it’s been a shit year for me personally anyway putting aside the virus (if that’s possible). I’m kidding myself with getting to the end of the year and things magically resolving themselves but they won’t, next year is shaping up to be even shitter potentially once the economic reality sets in. I have a job where I’m supposed to be positive and energetic (from a communication perspective) and it’s getting tougher each day. Im staying up too late, waking up too late, I don’t feel like I’m accomplishing anything and life is just in some weird limbo / rut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Davkaus said: Confirmed today at my company we're working from home until at least April, no matter what. I love mostly working from home. I get more sleep, no rush hour stress, more comfortable, better desk and tech. But I'm going **** mental. I basically wake up, talk about work, get pissed, play with the cats, and go to bed. I miss the morning coffee run. I miss talking about what we watched on TV on the way to meetings. I miss pub lunches on quiet days. I'm realising how little I socialise outside of work. I feel like I'm approaching breaking point, I just don't know how much longer I can live like this. Today I made a coffee, then sat down on the stairs and just stared at the wall for a while, and realised my coffee was cold. I'm not ok and I can't live like this. I’m not as bad, but I know what you mean. Have you asked if you can go in the office at least one day a week? Have you got any friends you can meet up with? Make yourself go for a walk at lunchtime, it’s good not only for fresh air and to something different but also getting some natural daylight on the skin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 8 hours ago, bickster said: Whilst we're on about vaccines and that Top 9. It’s bollocks As they are starting on the Pfizer vaccine, how do they propose to get that to all the oldest people first? The logistics of the Pfizer vaccine render it next to useless for people in a care / nursing home situation? The talk is of large regional facilities to deliver it like the Nightingale Hospitals which will also probably rule out a lot of the more able older people. That list is just propaganda It is feasible if there are enough of these 'suitcases'. Quote Pfizer has developed a special transport box the size of a suitcase, packed with dry ice and installed with GPS trackers. Each reusable box can keep up to 5,000 doses of the vaccine at the right temperature for 10 days, if it remains unopened. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54889084 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 8 hours ago, bickster said: Whilst we're on about vaccines and that Top 9. It’s bollocks As they are starting on the Pfizer vaccine, how do they propose to get that to all the oldest people first? The logistics of the Pfizer vaccine render it next to useless for people in a care / nursing home situation? The talk is of large regional facilities to deliver it like the Nightingale Hospitals which will also probably rule out a lot of the more able older people. That list is just propaganda I think I read that it can stay out of the -70C storage temp for 5 days (just chilled in a fridge in that period). Hopefully makes it more manageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 3, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Genie said: I think I read that it can stay out of the -70C storage temp for 5 days (just chilled in a fridge in that period). Hopefully makes it more manageable. Yeah, it seems quite straightforward to me. A van with refrigeration facilities turns up (they must have them or it's easy enough to hire or buy some) at the big hospital -70° facility. It picks up enough doses to vaccinate a care home and immediately drives there accompanied by the nurses to deliver the shot. If you plan the route you could probably do a few care homes in the same vicinity each day. The doses won't be out of the big fridge for more than a day that way. I am sure it can't be that difficult. Should be a piece of piss for those highly trained army logistics folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted December 3, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 3, 2020 41 minutes ago, LondonLax said: It is feasible if there are enough of these 'suitcases'. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54889084 8 minutes ago, sidcow said: Yeah, it seems quite straightforward to me. A van with refrigeration facilities turns up (they must have them or it's easy enough to hire or buy some) at the big hospital -70° facility. It picks up enough doses to vaccinate a care home and immediately drives there accompanied by the nurses to deliver the shot. If you plan the route you could probably do a few care homes in the same vicinity each day. The doses won't be out of the big fridge for more than a day that way. I am sure it can't be that difficult. Should be a piece of piss for those highly trained army logistics folks. The nurses my missus works with on the immunisation teams reckon its almost impossible. There are all kind of rules with these things on how many times they can be transported and a significant number of steps in that transportation process will be taken up by delivery from Belgium, which is why they are talking about regional centres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I think the only reason Brexit has “helped” getting this drug approved fast is because we have to get them in the UK before the end of the year otherwise we’re fooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, sidcow said: Yeah, it seems quite straightforward to me. A van with refrigeration facilities turns up (they must have them or it's easy enough to hire or buy some) at the big hospital -70° facility. It picks up enough doses to vaccinate a care home and immediately drives there accompanied by the nurses to deliver the shot. If you plan the route you could probably do a few care homes in the same vicinity each day. The doses won't be out of the big fridge for more than a day that way. I am sure it can't be that difficult. Should be a piece of piss for those highly trained army logistics folks. Isn't one of the problems that the fridges do exist, but they are currently full of flu vaccine? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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