sne Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 The amount of elderly people living there as well. Or is that just a TV and movie thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, sne said: The amount of elderly people living there as well. Or is that just a TV and movie thing? I think a lot of people retire to Florida because of the weather 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Genie said: I think a lot of people retire to Florida because of the weather Yeah that's what I've learnt from Seinfeld, The Simpsons and about a 100 other shows and movies Elderly people, south American drug dealers and the swamp people. Edited July 12, 2020 by sne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sne said: Yeah that's what I've learnt from Seinfeld, The Simpsons and about a 100 other shows and movies Elderly people, south American drug dealers and the swamp people. According to Wiki Florida has the 5th oldest average population of the US territories at 42.2 Edited July 12, 2020 by Genie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Quote Florida has registered a state record of 15,299 new coronavirus cases in 24 hours - around a quarter of all of the United States' daily infections. The state, with just 7% of the US population, surpassed the previous daily record held by California. Florida, which began lifting coronavirus restrictions in May, has proved vulnerable due to tourism and an elderly population. Its figures eclipse the worst daily rates seen in New York in April. Florida also registered an additional 45 deaths. The state would rank fourth in the world for new cases if it were a country, according to a Reuters analysis. More than 40 hospitals in Florida say their intensive care facilities are at full capacity. It’s not looking good Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheAuthority Posted July 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2020 5 hours ago, sne said: Elderly people, south American drug dealers and the swamp people. I would add to that, obnoxious losers from New Jersey & New York who are so heinous that they can't fit in the in the North East. (Also career crooks, criminals of the Trump ilk.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 The US seemed to have a similar level of control of the virus as many other places around the word until a few weeks ago when the cases have gone through the roof. Of course Trump is partly right that it’s because they are testing far more people but there must be other factors. Are the protests and riots a significant factor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Genie said: The US seemed to have a similar level of control of the virus as many other places around the word until a few weeks ago when the cases have gone through the roof. Of course Trump is partly right that it’s because they are testing far more people but there must be other factors. Are the protests and riots a significant factor? It seems like the reopening of pubs and bars is probably the biggest factor from what I’ve read. There is also a difference in what their leaders are telling their people over there. It seems very much a message that the virus is now not a big deal and the difficult part is over. People are responding to that accordingly. Edited July 13, 2020 by LondonLax 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, Genie said: The US seemed to have a similar level of control of the virus as many other places around the word until a few weeks ago when the cases have gone through the roof. Of course Trump is partly right that it’s because they are testing far more people but there must be other factors. Are the protests and riots a significant factor? The increased testing is one thing, but that would not explain the steep increase in people needing care in hospitals. Hospitals are on the brink in many places with more and more cases coming in all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 With the kind of numbers we’re seeing in the US they must be at a very high risk of having their health system overrun (those that can afford to go to hospital). I’d assume they haven’t been able to clear the books of non-essential treatments because they have been paid for. It looks like a very toxic mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Genie said: With the kind of numbers we’re seeing in the US they must be at a very high risk of having their health system overrun (those that can afford to go to hospital). I’d assume they haven’t been able to clear the books of non-essential treatments because they have been paid for. It looks like a very toxic mix. Long way to go but if it continues like this it must be hard for them to even hold the election in any safe-ish way. Maybe that's the plan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Genie said: With the kind of numbers we’re seeing in the US they must be at a very high risk of having their health system overrun (those that can afford to go to hospital). I’d assume they haven’t been able to clear the books of non-essential treatments because they have been paid for. It looks like a very toxic mix. It’s a bit of a crazy medical system they have over there. The hospitals are typically private and make the bulk of their money on the expensive elective surgeries, not on treating patients who are taking up bed space for weeks. Just when you needed them most some of the hospitals were going bankrupt and having to close up and send patients elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Genie said: The US seemed to have a similar level of control of the virus as many other places around the word until a few weeks ago when the cases have gone through the roof. Of course Trump is partly right that it’s because they are testing far more people but there must be other factors. Are the protests and riots a significant factor? The protests don't appear to be a factor at all. The states and other areas that had the big protests - Minnesota, New York, Washington DC - are not the states suffering these big outbreaks. Furthermore, every study I have seen has suggested that there was very little transmission at the protests themselves. What appears to be responsible is the general push to reopen things, and the complete complacency that the country had about the virus by May. States - especially states with Republican governors, but not only - decided that in the battle between 'public health' and 'the economy', the latter won. In this, they were partly being callous Trumpists, but also making a rational response to the fact that Congressional Republicans were making clear that they were going to withhold, or fight very hard to withhold, any further financial support for state and local governments. 16 minutes ago, Genie said: With the kind of numbers we’re seeing in the US they must be at a very high risk of having their health system overrun (those that can afford to go to hospital). I’d assume they haven’t been able to clear the books of non-essential treatments because they have been paid for. It looks like a very toxic mix. I don't think any *cities* are in imminent danger of breaching their ICU surge capacity yet, but individual hospitals are filling up, and as I understand it, which may be wrong, that can cause problems because it can become the case that the hospitals with spaces are 'out of network' for your insurance coverage. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Davkaus Posted July 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2020 Boris is making noises about getting people back in to offices. I think he'll have a fight on his hands. Millions of people have realised they can do their jobs productively from home, saving money, saving time, and reaping the benefits of a much better work-life balance. Companies are realising they could save a fortune on city centre office space. I don't see everyone going back to normal, just so we can keep meal deal sales up. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Millions of people have realised they can do their jobs productively from home, saving money, saving time, and reaping the benefits of a much better work-life balance. Companies are realising they could save a fortune on city centre office space. Personally, I detest working from home - it messes my work life balance up completely and I'm much less productive. If asked to work from home again, I'd probably end up going to a coffee shop or a pub. Work is work and home is home - that works for me - I'm really hoping I don't get forced out of the workplace. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted July 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Personally, I detest working from home - it messes my work life balance up completely and I'm much less productive. If asked to work from home again, I'd probably end up going to a coffee shop or a pub. Work is work and home is home - that works for me - I'm really hoping I don't get forced out of the workplace. I know a few people that feel like this, and I see your point. There are some who prefer working from an office. Some have no choice due to not having the space or facilities at home. Sometimes people do just need to work in the same location. Some people are just extroverts and can't stand being at home alone. I think the sweet spot for me would be some flexibility, 1-2 days in the office, 3-4 days from home. I can't go back to an office 5 days a week though, and if my company tries to insist on it, I'll be handing in my notice. I didn't realise how miserable my commute made me, and it's only about 45 minutes each way. That's about 7.5 hours a week though. Sat in traffic, getting pissed off at red lights and bad drivers, then it takes me ages to unwind when I get home. 7.5 extra hours at home to do things I enjoy. Plus the benefit of just being able to do what I want at lunch. Sometimes I watch TV, sometimes I go for a walk. Sometimes I unload the dishwasher and hang out some washing, and have less jobs to do in the evening. I have more time, I exercise more, I eat more healthily, and I have more energy and enthusiasm to do things in the evening. It's been life changing for me. It never occurred to me how much I'd enjoy this way of working, but I can't and won't go back to the old way. Edited July 13, 2020 by Davkaus 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted July 13, 2020 I think for me the problem is that I do more in a day at the office than in a week at home. My head tells me one place is for working in and one isn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I also hate working from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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