Xela Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 One wonders how many families packing the beaches up and down the country today are the same ones in no rush to go back to work or send their kids back to school 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 19 minutes ago, snowychap said: Not up close. Wise choice, for once! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, Xela said: One wonders how many families packing the beaches up and down the country today are the same ones in no rush to go back to work or send their kids back to school Wouldnt suprise me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post snowychap Posted May 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Xela said: One wonders how many families packing the beaches up and down the country today are the same ones in no rush to go back to work or send their kids back to school Hmm. That's quite poorly worded. It may well be the case that the same people not giving a shit about distancing and the whole spirit of measures and restrictions (at beaches and elsewhere - taking in to account the kinds of points often made, sensibly, by @HanoiVillan) might also be saying that they don't want to rush back to work or send kids to school. Of those that are not willing to rush themselves back to work or send their kids back to school, I'd take a punt that the vast majority aren't anywhere near a beach or packing themselves anywhere near other people in large groups. Edited May 20, 2020 by snowychap 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted May 20, 2020 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, Xela said: One wonders how many families packing the beaches up and down the country today are the same ones in no rush to go back to work or send their kids back to school I think most people on furlough would love to be back at work, pending there being work that needs to be done and it being safe to do so. The people who've piled onto the beaches haven't used the best of judgement if they've come from a distance away, in fairness they're not directly in contravention of the current advice, but a bit of common sense should have told them it wasn't a good idea. That said I can't see why they wouldn't be a pretty straightforward cross section of the population at large - I'm not sure where the idea comes from that they wouldn't be? In terms of adhering to government advice on social distancing and the like, in my experience it's those people that are working that Ive seen cause the most difficulty. In the shops and supermarkets near to me, the workers from the local factories pile into the supermarket in groups, ignore the signs on the floor and show no intention of obeying any rule on two meters - I'm guessing because the factories they work in don't do those things and they get used to it - that's natural to an extent we each take our keys on behaviour from the people we are around or the instruction that we get - it doesn't mean that all people that are working are like that of course, I'm just offering an observation. My sister works in schools, there's a lot of concern from staff, parents and teaching bodies alike on the government's plan to re-open the schools, not least because it seems that the governments plan consists in its entirety of 're-open the schools', without too much thought given to measures that make that safe, like distancing, PPE or common sense on class sizes. You seem to have jumped to two or three separate generalisations on groups of people , all of which I think are inherently wrong and then somehow linked them together to create a sort of super combined stereotype of the reckless and work-shy furloughed parent, who hates education is desperate to go the beach and too lazy to work - a link that doesn't make any sense to me. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I think it’s a certainty there will be an uptick in the amount of cases and deaths. BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, Genie said: I think it’s a certainty there will be an uptick in the amount of cases and deaths. BBC I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Too many idiots over here thats why the infection rate wont drop. In cyprus they have opened beaches and allow you to swim not sunbathe or sit down. This was obviously gonna happen over here people flogging to the beach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 It is dropping though. Zero new cases in London today. Maybe we are building up an immunity to it. Despite these scenes I just hope it continues to drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Too many idiots over here thats why the infection rate wont drop. In cyprus they have opened beaches and allow you to swim not sunbathe or sit down. This was obviously gonna happen over here people flogging to the beach quick get to the beach! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HanoiVillan Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 hours ago, LondonLax said: It actually doesn’t seem to though. It goes through care homes like wildfire but in children they don’t usually even get a cough so they are not snotting everywhere or sneezing everywhere or coughing and spluttering, they are usually asymptomatic which makes it more difficult for the virus to spread. From what I’ve read, if it spread between children the way colds and flu usually do we would have way more infected than we do. It’s a bit on an unusual virus in that regard. More difficult possibly, but certainly not impossible, and if anything this seems like a reason to be more cautious about returning to school. If lots and lots of children who are carrying the virus are asymptomatic, to a larger extent than the rest of the population, then parents and children will not know that they are sick, and they will merrily continue attending school and spreading the virus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I do wonder what percentage of those people object to going back to work or the ones with kids object sending them back to school. Because clearly none of these people care about getting sick. if i was silly enough to go down had i seen even half of that i would have turned back and gone home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DCJonah Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I do wonder what percentage of those people object to going back to work or the ones with kids object sending them back to school. Because clearly none of these people care about getting sick. if i was silly enough to go down had i seen even half of that i would have turned back and gone home. I think these are the kind of words removed who will send kids back with no caution and put everyone else at risk.n 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: More difficult possibly, but certainly not impossible, and if anything this seems like a reason to be more cautious about returning to school. If lots and lots of children who are carrying the virus are asymptomatic, to a larger extent than the rest of the population, then parents and children will not know that they are sick, and they will merrily continue attending school and spreading the virus. Add in hayfever issues - i.e. things that cause sneezing unrelated to the virus itself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Suns out, kids off school and millions being paid not to go to work, recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Interesting to watch the medical chap on today's briefing - he was presenting a number of graphs showing reductions in admissions, case numbers, new cases and deaths and talking about us being past the peak of the virus - he was very clear that this was in no small part down to our efforts on Social Distancing, in fact, he repeated the link between things getting better and social distancing by saying the phrase social distancing are 15-20 times in around three minutes. What he didn't say at all in the entire time he was up there were he words, lockdown or isolation. It looked to me like the continuation of the presentation of a narrative that disconnects lockdown from any progress in preventing the spread of the virus; one that says, "You can get back to work". Have they ever called it a lockdown? Genuine question. I remember when it was announced having the discussion that they'd very carefully not used the term lockdown in the announcement, At the time I thought it was so that they could end up saying "we beat the virus and never actually went into lockdown!". But I don't think they'd be doing that now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted May 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Xela said: One wonders how many families packing the beaches up and down the country today are the same ones in no rush to go back to work or send their kids back to school I know this isn't what you're saying, but I've noticed a growing trend of people saying stuff like "I bet the people at the beach are the same people too laxy to come off furlough" or similar. Basically the implication that people are choosing to be furloughed and are too lazy to go back to work. Again I know that's not what you're saying, it just reminded me of that so I"m thinking out loud. As someone who has been furloughed it's pissing me off! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, snowychap said: Add in hayfever issues - i.e. things that cause sneezing unrelated to the virus itself. . . . and also all the shared surfaces, in door handles, coat racks, lockers, everything in the bathroom etc. Really not convinced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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