mjmooney Posted April 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Shocking isn’t it. Hopefully he’s struck off , or should I say struck down. Don't think there's anybody to strike him off. The mainstream/established churches (Catholics, CofE, etc.) can have offenders 'defrocked' and kicked out, but this clearing in the woods was one of those 'start your own church' types. Quote faith healer who sold £91 "plague protection kits" claiming they could shield people from Covid-19 is being investigated by the charity watchdog. Bishop Climate Wiseman of the Kingdom Church in Camberwell, London, claimed a bottle of oil and some red yarn would protect his followers from the virus. In a blog, he wrote "it is by faith you can be saved from the virus". He said his church was not telling people to ignore government advice, adding his message was from the Bible. "I'm a Christian and there is a way that the Bible says to protect us from plagues," he said. "I have not told anybody to get out of your house, go anywhere or whatever." His blog said people would be protected "by covering yourself with the divine plague protection oil and wearing the scarlet yarn on your body. "That is why I want to encourage you, if you haven't done so already, to get your divine plague protection kit today!" Mr Wiseman told the PA news agency the church, which is a registered charity, had sold more than 1,000 of the kits, which were originally priced at £91. He has previously insisted the church was not selling the kits, and that the price tag was only to cover the cost of the ingredients, yarn and postage and packaging. The website link to buy them has since been deactivated following criticism from Southwark Council. The Charity Commission, which regulates charities in England and Wales, said: "We are looking into the serious concern about Kingdom Church GB's alleged sale of false Covid-19 protection devices, as a matter of urgency." The plague protection kit is one of many anointing oils offered by Mr Wiseman for a range of problems, including oil for peace, unlimited success oil and anointing oil for good marriages. On the Kingdom Church's website, it claims thousands of people have been healed from "all sorts" of sicknesses and disease since it was founded in 2005. BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just now, mjmooney said: Don't think there's anybody to strike him off. The mainstream/established churches (Catholics, CofE, etc.) can have offenders 'defrocked' and kicked out, but this clearing in the woods was one of those 'start your own church' types. BBC Usually the worse types start your own churches are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2020 59 minutes ago, ml1dch said: And even if he wasn't going to (and obviously you're right, he is) what is in it for Starmer / Labour? I can't imagine it'll play too well with the membership if one of the new leader's first acts is to join a Conservative government. It's a bad situation for Boris - we'll be well over a thousand deaths a day very soon - he's out of action, and if the words 'Dominic Rabb is running the country' don't strike fear into your heart then I understand you wouldn't go for a national unity government. Starmer has everything to gain and nothing to lose - it's a big IF of course, but if this happens, it'll only make him look more like a PM in the nations eyes - so the Tories have to calculate - be squarely blamed for the biggest loss of civilian life in modern times - or make Starmer look more prime-ministerial. That's not a tough choice for Boris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, DCJonah said: If people haven't realised what this rag is all about by now, either they don't care or they're too stupid to reason with. Im seeing a correlation in Sun readers and 5g conspiracy whatsapp forwards... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Just had yet another news update that ‘Boris continues to improve’. It seems at this rate he’ll be completing triathlons before leaving the ICU. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 hours ago, chrisp65 said: The Times: Compare and contrast https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/mps-given-10000-extra-to-help-them-work-from-home-during-coronavirus-outbreak Quote MPs are to be allowed to claim an extra £10,000 in expenses to help them work from home during the coronavirus epidemic. According to The Times, the cash can be spent on laptops and printers for MPs and their staff, or to pay for additional electricity, heating and phone bills. It comes on top of the existing £26,000 a year that MPs can each claim to cover their office costs. In a addition to the extra £10,000, Ipsa has also relaxed the ruled on the evidence MPs must provide to back up their expenses claims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wezbid Posted April 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 9, 2020 Back to the 'office' for the first time in 2 weeks after having to self-isolate. It's definitely non-stop. I made the mistake of going out delivering in a long sleeve shirt. Just popped home now on my break for a short sleever! 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 32 minutes ago, Jareth said: It's a bad situation for Boris - we'll be well over a thousand deaths a day very soon - he's out of action, and if the words 'Dominic Rabb is running the country' don't strike fear into your heart then I understand you wouldn't go for a national unity government. Starmer has everything to gain and nothing to lose - it's a big IF of course, but if this happens, it'll only make him look more like a PM in the nations eyes - so the Tories have to calculate - be squarely blamed for the biggest loss of civilian life in modern times - or make Starmer look more prime-ministerial. That's not a tough choice for Boris This gets the politics exactly backwards: Starmer has nothing to gain and everything to lose by visibly co-signing decisions he has no actual input into. He's doing it okay right now (as was Corbyn before); comment on a case-by-case basis, accept briefings, but don't be associated with any decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: This gets the politics exactly backwards: Starmer has nothing to gain and everything to lose by visibly co-signing decisions he has no actual input into. He's doing it okay right now (as was Corbyn before); comment on a case-by-case basis, accept briefings, but don't be associated with any decisions. My point was based on a true GNU arrangement where decisions are made jointly and power is even - of course he's not going to walk into a bear trap otherwise... Sorry read that back and I sound like a condescending prat - honestly wasn't meant to be! Edited April 9, 2020 by Jareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rugeley Villa said: Usually the worse types start your own churches are. Yes, some like Jim Jones and David Koresh have had a mixed press. But it’s not all bad. The dearly departed Rt. Rev. D Wayne Love was an inspiration. Edited April 9, 2020 by chrisp65 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 51 minutes ago, Jareth said: My point was based on a true GNU arrangement where decisions are made jointly and power is even - of course he's not going to walk into a bear trap otherwise... Sorry read that back and I sound like a condescending prat - honestly wasn't meant to be! Don't worry, I don't think you're being condescending at all. I just don't think the scenario you're describing is on the table, or ever would be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Quote They clarified that 140 of those deaths took place on Wednesday, while 568 happened within the previous week and the remaining 57 were from March. Just noticed this on the death figures report on Sky News today. They are only just reporting some figures from March? Clearly going to massage the figures to keep them under 1k. Sky News Edited April 9, 2020 by pas5898 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Coronavirus: Doctor who warned prime minister about PPE dies with COVID-19 'A doctor diagnosed with coronavirus has died - three weeks after he warned the prime minister health workers urgently need more PPE. Abdul Mabud Chowdhury,53, passed away after 15 days in hospital. On 18 March he wrote a message to Boris Johnson asking him to "urgently" ensure personal protective equipment for "each and every NHS worker in the UK". He told the prime minister that healthcare workers "are in direct contact with patients" and have a "human right like others to live in this world disease-free with our family and children". Dr Chowdhury was a locum urologist who worked at Homerton Hospital in East London and died on Wednesday at Queen's Hospital in Romford after testing positive for coronavirus.' https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-doctor-who-warned-prime-minister-about-ppe-dies-with-covid-19-11971068 Kind of frustrating how quickly the scandal of the lack of PPE has fallen off the radar, in favour of virtue signalling clapping, and prayers for Boris. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Numbers seem down slightly today but guessing nothing much can be read into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Coronavirus: Doctor who warned prime minister about PPE dies with COVID-19 'A doctor diagnosed with coronavirus has died - three weeks after he warned the prime minister health workers urgently need more PPE. Abdul Mabud Chowdhury,53, passed away after 15 days in hospital. On 18 March he wrote a message to Boris Johnson asking him to "urgently" ensure personal protective equipment for "each and every NHS worker in the UK". He told the prime minister that healthcare workers "are in direct contact with patients" and have a "human right like others to live in this world disease-free with our family and children". Dr Chowdhury was a locum urologist who worked at Homerton Hospital in East London and died on Wednesday at Queen's Hospital in Romford after testing positive for coronavirus.' https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-doctor-who-warned-prime-minister-about-ppe-dies-with-covid-19-11971068 Kind of frustrating how quickly the scandal of the lack of PPE has fallen off the radar, in favour of virtue signalling clapping, and prayers for Boris. Its disgusting. Its an absolute national disgrace and can't be just pushed under the rug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Awol said: No quick deliveries of COVID-19 ventilators, EU says Luckily the Europeans are still thinking of you guys, even when you forget to check your spam email folders. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/apr/09/coronavirus-live-news-global-cases-uk-us-usa-worst-daily-death-toll-latest-updates Quote Germany’s army is donating 60 mobile ventilators free of charge to the UK following a call for help as the NHS scrambles to get hold of enough life-saving equipment as the Covid-19 pandemic intensifies. Speaking to the Guardian, a spokesperson for the German defence ministry confirmed a report in Der Spiegel, according to which the Bundeswehr would send 60 pieces of equipment from its own depot across the Channel as soon as possible. The German ministry said it would not invoice the UK for the ventilators. More than 480 ventilators are understood to have arrived in the UK from overseas since March. They have been bought or donated from China, US, Germany, Sweden and Taiwan. Edit: On a side note, the Swedes must really think they have this virus thing under control if they are not bothering closing their society and sending their ventilators to the UK... Edited April 9, 2020 by LondonLax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Its disgusting. Its an absolute national disgrace and can't be just pushed under the rug. Can’t or shouldn’t? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Quote Three nurses who wore bin bags on their shifts due to a shortage in personal protective equipment (PPE) have reportedly tested positive for coronavirus. Just weeks ago, the nurses had shared a photo of themselves with clinical waste bags on their heads and feet as they issued a plea for proper masks, gowns and gloves at Northwick Park Hospital, in Harrow. The hospital previously declared an emergency situation after all of its critical care beds were filled with patients. More than 50% of staff working on one ward have now tested positive for coronavirus, the Daily Telegraph reports. Metro, but widely covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted April 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, LondonLax said: Speaking to the Guardian, a spokesperson for the German defence ministry confirmed a report in Der Spiegel, according to which the Bundeswehr would send 60 pieces of equipment from its own depot across the Channel as soon as possible. The German ministry said it would not invoice the UK for the ventilators. Coming over here with their 60 ventilators breathing oxygen into our indigenous people??!!! No thanks you gerries, we won the last war after all. Brexit means Brexit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, Xann said: Metro, but widely covered. I wonder if any tory voters are starting to feel like they've made a mistake? Surely even the most loyal supporters can't possibly think reports like this are acceptable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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