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22 minutes ago, Awol said:

Quite. Also the Czechs had to stop using the tests they got from China due to an 80% failure rate. 

Although I did attend a conf call this morning for work with one of our colleagues dialling in from China and she did confirm the restrictions are being lifted, shops are opening back up and things are returning to some semblance of normality.


But who knows how well 'trained' she's been.........

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40 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

Hundreds of years of Westminster rule, only 58 ICU beds in Scotland.

Bastards in the SNP to blame.

The SNP has run the Scottish NHS since 2007. 

But Westminster. 

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7 hours ago, Awol said:

Even now the SNP can’t resist nationalist gesture politics.

Looks like they're not the only ones...

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There is no reasonable justification for Boris Johnson’s refusal to participate in the EU’s procurement of ventilators.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-politician-chides-pm-johnson-133623810.html

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2 minutes ago, Xann said:

 

Exactly. Westminster starved the NHS in England, while Scotland’s NHS with its 58 ICU beds, was run lock stock and barrel by the SNP. 

The Conservatives will pay the reputational price for austerity after this, as they should. 

The original discussion was about Sturgeon trying to find a nationalist angle to the Coronavirus, so I’m not sure what point your trying to make? 

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2 minutes ago, Awol said:

... so I’m not sure what point your trying to make? 

Westminster under Bliar and the Filth shed NHS beds.

Scotland is better at looking after the NHS than Westminster, that's now pumping money into the extra private beds. Just the way the Filth like it.

Scotland (like Eire) utilise Newcastle for some specialist and intensive facilities, that goes some way to explain the bed count for now. Though when Scotland gains independence, I would (or did, who knows since the current situation?) expect this to change quite drastically as they attempt to become self sufficient.

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Can't shake the feeling that Anders Tegnell, they guy who is handling the CDC in Sweden is a lot like the android Ash from the first Alien movie.

He appears fascinated by the virus and to see part of the Swedish population as expendable in this big experiment of his where Sweden act completely the opposite way of every other country in the world.

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2 minutes ago, Xann said:

Scotland is better at looking after the NHS than Westminster,

I’ve lived in Scotland coming on 3 years and my youngest has used the NHS extensively. During the same period my sister has been using the NHS in England. Anecdotally neither  has been a good experience, and I don’t believe what you’ve written above is actually true, despite the funding for Scotland per capita being higher. 

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I doubt the man below is the first this has happened to and won't be the last.  The advice to me seems a little bit dangerous basically telling you to get on with it unless you get to the point where you are struggling to breath. I think it was @LakotaDakota who had paramedics come out and actually say that to him even though he was really struggling.

 

 

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57 minutes ago, Awol said:

Why would we be in an EU procurement programme when we’re not in the EU? Like saying why aren’t we in a joint programme with Russia, or Algeria. Why would we be? 

The argument here is that because we are in the transition period, we are entitled to access the EU procurement programme. I believe many people are of the belief that being part of the procurement programme would lead to the faster delivery of more ventilators and other medical equipment than has been possible by asking British manufacturers to retool (I take no position on which side of this is right, because I don't have anywhere near enough information to judge, but it's not a ridiculous suggestion on the face of it). 

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1 hour ago, Awol said:

Why would we be in an EU procurement programme when we’re not in the EU? Like saying why aren’t we in a joint programme with Russia, or Algeria. Why would we be? 

I don't cook dinner for my next door neighbours but we've been discussing pooling our grocery shopping into one delivery.

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1 minute ago, Awol said:

I’ve lived in Scotland coming on 3 years and my youngest has used the NHS extensively. During the same period my sister has been using the NHS in England. Anecdotally neither  has been a good experience, and I don’t believe what you’ve written above is actually true, despite the funding for Scotland per capita being higher. 

I can't really say here why you're wrong, but my friends are at all levels in the NHS, including setting clinical standards. The Tory Filth's chums are constantly trying to waste money and break the service.

One of Cameron's advisors tried to pull a number that beggars belief. Fundamentally bad, with dire social consequences for most, in the service of his private paymasters.

He was foiled, but still kept his position. Scum.

The current situation is too chaotic to make any reliable predictions, but before this current situation kicked off, many medical friends had an eye on relocating North of Gretna.

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