Xann Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: She went at 7.30 and said cars were parking away from each other as much as possible. Every nhs worker was given a bouquet of flowers after showing their pass on entry. Same here. Her community nurse colleagues got the blooms too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Just now, Xann said: Same here. Her community nurse colleagues got the blooms too. Not wanting to come across as cynical for the sake of it but no doubt the supermarkets have a major excess of flowers following yesterday not going ahead as planned.....just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lapal_fan Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Very different experience to my wife at sainsbury this morning. She went at 7.30 and said cars were parking away from each other as much as possible. Every nhs worker was given a bouquet of flowers after showing their pass on entry. My wife said it was fairly busy but you could tell everyone was NHS. It was very subdued and people being sensible and keeping their distance. Hopefully more like this and less like the one you had to go to. Genuinely pleased to hear that. I was pretty crestfallen after it yesterday. Both my wife and I said we'd try Sainsbury's, but I popped to my local Co-Op in the afternoon and they'd just had a delivery and I got most of what I needed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Not wanting to come across as cynical for the sake of it but no doubt the supermarkets have a major excess of flowers following yesterday not going ahead as planned.....just saying. Yeah, I was in Asda Tamworth yesterday and they were literally handing free flowers to everyone who was leaving the shop. The man pretty much chucked them at me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Not wanting to come across as cynical for the sake of it but no doubt the supermarkets have a major excess of flowers following yesterday not going ahead as planned.....just saying. Of course. Still a nice touch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted March 23, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Not wanting to come across as cynical for the sake of it but no doubt the supermarkets have a major excess of flowers following yesterday not going ahead as planned.....just saying. Of course. It’s not cynical but a nice thought. Bin a bunch of stuff we can’t use or bring a bit of brightness to the lives of people who are all having a hard time? Costs them nothing but it’s still a kindness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 47 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Well it's still an inappropriate word, if the way the Spanish use it is the same as English. But it kind of illustrates what I was saying about the moral pressures on doctors in these situations. I said that they've always had to do it - I didn't say they don't find it upsetting, of course they do. We'll probably see a PTSD epidemic somewhere down the line. I agree with you. But she wasn’t being a silly cow Genocide is far too strong a word (means same thing in Spanish). But certainly some of the government’s decisions may amount to something closer to manslaughter. The doctors themselves, I agree, you worry greatly about their mental health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Agreed. It's not even like it's selfish. It costs them more in time to hand them out individually than to bin the lot. It's good PR of course, but sod it. A nice thing is a nice thing, no matter why it was done. It's the same for places offering NHS workers free food drinks. It's all about the PR, but who cares. The government doesn't bother looking after its healthcare workers, and most patients are a **** nightmare. I'm sure they'll take the kindness where they can get it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: Pound and Euro are nearly level. Mad. Left the EU but joined the single currency 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted March 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2020 I'm probably going to make myself very unpopular on this thread by saying this, but I feel the need to, so . . . I've been getting steadily more annoyed with the new genre of photo/video journalism that consists of taking deep-focus shots of parks with people in and then shaming them for acting irresponsibly. As far as I am aware, government health advice is that you need prolonged (around 15 minutes, but let's say 5-10 to be on the safe side) close exposure to a person (within 2 metres/6 feet) *or* to be directly coughed/sneezed on *or* to pick the virus up from a surface in order to become infected. Nothing about going for a walk in the park necessitates being in a situation where these things can happen. It is possible to walk in public, and eidemiologists - including some of those who were most alarmed about the virus early - agree with this: Exercise and fresh air are good for people's physical and mental health. On a sunny day, being outside helps you to produce vitamin D, which we know from our Dr Campbell videos helps people avoid catching viral infections. It's bad, actually, that parks are being closed across the continent, and that people are posting memes and videos shaming others for simply going outside. Now, that is not to say that there have not been people breaking the advice. Many of these videos have *also* contained images of people sitting and chatting with friends, or otherwise being too close to strangers. That is a problem, and that needs to be called out strongly, but we need the media (and ourselves as well) to start making the distinction between safe and unsafe outdoor exercise, rather than just retreating to our four walls and begging the army to clear the streets, which seems to be the underlying desire for too many people. A separate problem is that in inner London, for instance, there may just be too many people for everyone who wants to to visit a park at the same time and remain 2 metres apart. Fine; but there are solutions to that, short of closing parks, such as having set times for people from particular streets or with particular surnames or whatever ('If your surname begins with the letters A - B, you can use the park from 9 - 10' etc). Councils should do that work, rather than just closing everything down and leaving people trapped in their homes for 3 months, and media should start distinguishing between safe and unsafe behaviours, before politicians simply call in the army because they feel pressured into it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Agreed. It's not even like it's selfish. It costs them more in time to hand them out individually than to bin the lot. It's good PR of course, but sod it. A nice thing is a nice thing, no matter why it was done. It's the same for places offering NHS workers free food drinks. It's all about the PR, but who cares. The government doesn't bother looking after its healthcare workers, and most patients are a **** nightmare. I'm sure they'll take the kindness where they can get it. My wife knew it was pr and the reasons behind it. But it still put a smile on her face and they're sitting in a vase brightening up the living room. It's a nice touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, mjmooney said: The difference between Saturday and Sunday here in the People's Republic was profound. Sunday. Usually heaving. Bars shut, seating removed. Groceries and takeaway only. I'm spending my money here rather than the supermarkets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 I went for a lovely roof-down drive around the peak district yesterday, and got out and had a nice walk around in the middle of nowhere. Didn't see anyone other than overtaking them on the way there. Someone called me irresponsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjmooney Posted March 23, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, KentVillan said: I agree with you. But she wasn’t being a silly cow Genocide is far too strong a word (means same thing in Spanish). But certainly some of the government’s decisions may amount to something closer to manslaughter. The doctors themselves, I agree, you worry greatly about their mental health. I misunderstood the original post - I thought the woman commentating was accusing the doctors of genocide because of their triage decisions. If it was a doctor accusing the government of it (admittedly by negligence and poor planning, rather than malicious intent), that's far more understandable. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 A lot of new stories are now pushing for a lockdown to be brought in as early as tomorrow. I think it’s the only way we can bring this thing to an early close, along with shutting off our borders. Two week lockdown as Italy did, the deaths there are now starting to decrease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 hour ago, villan-scott said: I work for a specialist mortgage lender. I won’t name them. We have now set up all phones to divert to staff at home. We’ve implemented a whole new phone system just to do this. If someone calls the office, whether it’s a new sales enquiry, customer service anything, they’re diverted to staff working from home. We employ about 1500 people, and the office is being manned by 10 people now doing the things that couldn’t be done from home. I imagine all lenders and large offices will adopt a similar process, or already have. Volumes of calls are ridiculous due to the mortgage holiday stuff. I work for a big manufacture mostly from home myself. But getting many messages from colleagues who work in car dealerships around the country saying what the f*** are we still doing open. Customers walking in like it's a bank holiday and still very busy. It cannot be helping the spread all the dealerships around the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Apparently Trump will be putting the economy before human life if his retweets in the last hour are anything to go by as he wants to get the country back to work in 15 days as that is more important than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 minute ago, markavfc40 said: Apparently Trump will be putting the economy before human life if his retweets in the last hour are anything to go by as he wants to get the country back to work in 15 days as that is more important than anything else. That certainly won't be happening in just 15 days' time, but as you say, it certainly gives an insight into his dessicated priorities. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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