Stevo985 Posted July 22, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: One of the lads down our place has been refused furlough. He’s on the books so is entitled to it, but our firm has said it’s too late now. He apparently sent one of the bosses a link to show him that he’s entitled to it, but they said take it as holiday or on the sick , but no furlough. I haven’t really looked at the furlough rules as it doesn’t effect me, but it seems very wrong of them to refuse him furlough. He has a child and another on the way. I don't think places were legally obliged to give anyone furlough. Furlough wasn't meant to be for isolating (I assume that's what you're referencing(, it was meant to be for paying people while demand for work dropped off. I'm no expert but even though the workplace sound like they're being dicks, they're probably legally fine 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 22, 2021 Moderator Share Posted July 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: One of the lads down our place has been refused furlough. He’s on the books so is entitled to it, but our firm has said it’s too late now. He apparently sent one of the bosses a link to show him that he’s entitled to it, but they said take it as holiday or on the sick , but no furlough. I haven’t really looked at the furlough rules as it doesn’t effect me, but it seems very wrong of them to refuse him furlough. He has a child and another on the way. I'm not sure employees can decide to go on furlough. It could be that its too late to register him on the furlough scheme if he hasn't been on it already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 50 minutes ago, Ingram85 said: I stress I’m not actually off but I’m praying to all gods old and new that that bloody app goes red Surely all you need to do is spend a few hours in a busy pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 41 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: One of the lads down our place has been refused furlough. He’s on the books so is entitled to it, but our firm has said it’s too late now. He apparently sent one of the bosses a link to show him that he’s entitled to it, but they said take it as holiday or on the sick , but no furlough. I haven’t really looked at the furlough rules as it doesn’t effect me, but it seems very wrong of them to refuse him furlough. He has a child and another on the way. Furlough is for businesses that can’t trade during the pandemic or have such a drop in demand due to government guidelines. Employees can’t request that their isolation periods are booked to the furlough scheme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 22, 2021 Moderator Share Posted July 22, 2021 56 minutes ago, Genie said: Furlough is for businesses that can’t trade during the pandemic or have such a drop in demand due to government guidelines. Employees can’t request that their isolation periods are booked to the furlough scheme. Nothing to stop employers booking people on holiday onto the furlough scheme though Govt pays 60% of wages if its a holiday on furlough I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 This difference in approach doesn't seem to make much difference in outcome, or at least it's no more important than other factors combined, as the covid situation in Scotland is far better than in England, despite people choosing not to report positive tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted July 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2021 Vox pop on BBC Breakfast. "I'm not getting the vaccine yet because I suffer from severe asthma and I want to see some clinical trials on that first." "You know Coronavirus can be terrible for people with severe asthma?" "Yeah, I'm really sceptical...really sceptical." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I wonder how fussy these people are about the drugs that doctors put into them when they are lying on a hospital bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Yesterday: No need to panic buy Today: Special rules for people in the food industry to stop us all starving to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted July 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Genie said: Yesterday: No need to panic buy Today: Special rules for people in the food industry to stop us all starving to death. Bloody Covid, coming over here eating our food. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Promising... Edited July 23, 2021 by Jareth 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted July 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, Jareth said: Promising Who’d have thunk it? A week after the news is full of stories about a pingdemic and everyone is saying they’re going to delete the app, the numbers start to drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Davkaus Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, choffer said: Who’d have thunk it? A week after the news is full of stories about a pingdemic and everyone is saying they’re going to delete the app, the numbers start to drop. The telling stats will be hospitalisations in about a week and a half 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Much fewer tests done though. Who knows, it could be that some level of herd immunity has been reached sharper than expected. Or it could be that half of all pupils being off school from 2 weeks ago had the effect of closing schools early and breaking the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted July 23, 2021 Moderator Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, darrenm said: Much fewer tests done though. Who knows, it could be that some level of herd immunity has been reached sharper than expected. Or it could be that half of all pupils being off school from 2 weeks ago had the effect of closing schools early and breaking the link. Add in the heatwave and everyone being outside as a factor too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 23, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2021 The Scotland numbers appear to be declining since July 1st, looking at that graph, not sure that decline can be answered with well yeah hot weather, less testing, school holibobs etc.... That said I expect England to have a different old time, given the mentler in charge of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 lol July 19th meet July 23rd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted July 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 24, 2021 On a more serious note, this is a very good and important thread: . . . as Goodall realises that all of these food distribution industry workers pinged by the app are - get this - expected to go to work as normal *but also* to isolate all the rest of the time as if they were off work. He asks not unreasonably about the legal and moral basis for this: There's just no chance people will follow these rules, and nor **** should they, but it's the purest distillation of the government's approach throughout the pandemic to demand that potentially infected and infectious people continue attending mostly low-paid employment but also not see friends or family or go to the shops or be able to live in any way outside work. The Tory id in its purest form. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, TreeVillan said: The Chinese were testing people with anal swabs some time ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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