Genie Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Well that's the sinister thing. When vaccine passports were first floated, people were massively against them as a huge restriction on liberties. The new ideas are much worse, making the vaccine passports look normal. I do wonder though if there wasn’t such a backlash against the suggestion of them there wouldn’t be an extension to the travel ban for *all people? Obviously doesn’t include rich and/or well connected people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Considering that majority of people are now vaccinated (nearly all at any serious risk) and the fact that it looks like travel will be severely restricted, it is a conspiracy to suggest the politicians in charge want us to get back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted May 3, 2021 Author Share Posted May 3, 2021 An esteemed Yale prof described covid as a bad flu *now* in an appearance on Bloomberg this morning. Progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Whilst there’s talk of will they / won’t they allow holidays to Europe, is anyone actually offering travel insurance inclusive of Covid? Do such policies exist? If not I can see the stories now, Sandra and Steve both ended up being evicted from the hotel after contracting Covid in Spain. They were moved to a hospital and then a quarantine hotel and now owe “Spain” £15,000 because their £11 policy from confused.com didn’t include the right level of cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted May 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 3, 2021 44 minutes ago, villakram said: An esteemed Yale prof described covid as a bad flu *now* in an appearance on Bloomberg this morning. Progress. Well for some people it is. And a bad flu killed over fifty million people in 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Germany has cancelled Oktoberfest again for this year. That says a lot about how they things will be in the Autumn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I've been looking at going away later this summer... I just picked an area in Wales and looked at a pub with rooms and this was on their safety page (below) I know they're only following rules, but bloody hell. i'd rather not go away if this is what its going to be like. 1 death in the UK following the latest announcement and these are the hoops to jump through when things open up in mid May Quote We are very grateful to you for your help in keeping everyone healthy and safe. OUR TEAM: • Every member of our team have undergone full training on how to prevent the spread of Covid-19 within the hotel setting. • Daily temperature checks are carried out on all of our colleagues and they are required to confirm that they have not been in contact with anyone with Covid 19 symptoms. • Team members are provided with PPE relevant to their area of work and given full training on how to use correctly. • Hand sanitising stations are located at various back of house areas. • Clear guidelines are displayed in all back of house areas for team members information. PRE-ARRIVAL • We have created a cashless environment card details will be required for all bookings. • We will ask you for a check in time so we can minimize arrivals during peak periods. • We are happy to answer any questions you may have please call us to discuss. ARRIVAL AT THE HOTEL • The NHS COVID-19 app is an important part of the Test, Trace, Protect programme to control the spread of Covid-19. The more people who use the app the greater our chances of reducing the spread of the virus. There is a QR code to scan at the front door and reception desk. • We now require details from each guest over the age of 16, we will request full name and contact details of each inividual guest upon check in. These details will be held for 21 days and the data will be provide to NHS Test and Trace if requested. • Face masks are mandatory in all inside public areas in Wales. We kindly ask that upon check in and when in all public areas apart from when seated in our restaurant and bar you wear a face covering. • Please use the front door to enter the hotel. You will need to press the doorbell and wait for a member of staff. The rear door that leads to the car park is for exit and emergency exit only. • Hand sanitisers are available at the entrance, we politely request you use these on arrival and throughout your stay where possible. • We have added a PVC screen to our reception area to limit contact as much as possible. Please call the reception desk from your hotel room should you require any assistance. • Our reception teams will sanitise their hands and surfaces between each guest. • All room keys will be sanitised. • We kindly ask that you bring and use your own pens. • Social distancing signs are in place to ensure we are adhering to government guidelines. HOUSEKEEPING Our staff have a thorough cleaning policy in place and on top of this: • Every guest bedroom and bathroom will be cleaned and fully sanitised with a virucidal sanitiser and not re-entered prior to your arrival. • Our Housekeeping team are provided with full PPE to use whilst cleaning your room and the PPE will be sanitised between each bedroom. They will also have all windows and doors open during this process to ensure proper ventilation. • We will not be entering your room to clean during your stay, should you require any additional linen, towelling or guest amenities please contact reception and we will leave this outside your door. • All guest information and reading material has been removed from the room, the guest visitor book is available on our website, however if you need any information please do not hesitate to contact reception from your room. • Tea trays will be equipped with sufficient supplies for the duration of your stay. • Bed Throws and Cushions have been removed from the room. Our Laundry supplier have put in additional steps to ensure that all linen is cleaned and returned sanitised. PUBLIC AREAS (please wear masks) • All public areas will be monitored and cleaned regularly with a virucidal sanitiser. • There is visible signage around the hotel regarding cleaning and safety protocols. • The Bar & Restaurant are open for residents only with restricted times. • Limited seating is available in the lounge area, please adhere to social distancing rules currently 2 metres in Wales. • When moving around the hotel we request that you please be considerate of the 2m social distancing rule. • We have set up hand sanitiser stations throughout ‘high traffic’ areas of the hotel, we politely request that you use these. • We request that should you need to use the lift at the hotel that you only enter the lift with your own family group and not any other hotel guests. Please sanitise your hands before and after use of the lift. • All leaflets and collateral have been removed from the hotel- should you require any information please do not hesitate to call reception who will be more than happy to assist. • Foot pedal bins are allocated around the hotel- should you require to dispose of any rubbish. • Foot pedal receptacles are allocated on each corridor floor- for the use of soiled towels. • Public toilets in the bar remain closed, please use public toilets at rear entrance or your bedroom facilities. • All staff are issued with the relevant PPE and have been trained on all updated safety procedures. FOOD & DRINK Breakfast is available from 7.30-10.00 am. • Breakfast both hot and cold options will be table service. • Breakfast Sandwiches are available to take away if preferred to sit down option. To adhere to social distancing rules in Wales we have a limited capacity in our restaurant. If no tables are available when you arrive you will be asked to return at a later time, we will endeavour to get a table ready for you as quick as possible. We thank you for your patience and co-operation. Evening Meals are available from 6.00-8.00pm. Please book before 12 noon on the day you would like to dine. ‘The bar is open daily, serving from 5pm-11pm and will close at 11.30pm. • All trays crockery and cutlery will be disinfected and put through the dishwasher. • All food & beverage including Kitchen team members are provided with relevant PPE and safety training. GROUPS To adhere to Welsh Law; group gatherings will be limited to a maximum of 6 people and will have to be from your extended household. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Xela said: I've been looking at going away later this summer... I just picked an area in Wales and looked at a pub with rooms and this was on their safety page (below) I know they're only following rules, but bloody hell. i'd rather not go away if this is what its going to be like. 1 death in the UK following the latest announcement and these are the hoops to jump through when things open up in mid May I wonder, very likely next year we will still have 1-10 deaths a day, much like with flus etc. Will this sort of control/regulation still be happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 I stay in hotels once or twice a month. That’s how it’s been for the last 14 months. With the added restriction of limited menu that can only be eaten in your own room. It’s already easing back. Last week hotels had seats and tables outside for drinks and meals. It’ll be a lot more normal in July or August. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted May 3, 2021 Moderator Share Posted May 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, Xela said: You will need to press the doorbell ha they make you touch something.... absolute fools 9 minutes ago, Xela said: Public toilets in the bar remain closed, please use public toilets at rear entrance or your bedroom facilities. 7 minutes ago, Xela said: All trays crockery and cutlery will be disinfected and put through the dishwasher. Yeah cos closing the ones in the bar forcing everyone to use the others really cuts down the amount of people in once space... saves on cleaning two bogs though Put the dishwasher on a high enough temperature and you won't need disinfectant 11 minutes ago, Xela said: We have set up hand sanitiser stations throughout ‘high traffic’ areas of the hotel, we politely request that you use these. What are people touching in "high traffic areas! Jeeeeeez louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Reminder set for tomorrow morning to check if the NHS website is accepting bookings for under 40’s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a m ole Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: There's really quite a lot of Britain in that one photo, isn't there. One of those you keep noticing new things 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Genie said: Reminder set for tomorrow morning to check if the NHS website is accepting bookings for under 40’s Still not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Still not I am disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, Genie said: I am disappointed 0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted May 4, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 4, 2021 Didn’t quite get the shivers last night but I did sweat so much that I then got pretty cold. Feeling pretty much fine now though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 20 hours ago, Mic09 said: Considering that majority of people are now vaccinated (nearly all at any serious risk) and the fact that it looks like travel will be severely restricted, it is a conspiracy to suggest the politicians in charge want us to get back to normal. A lot of people in rich counties have been vaccinated. But most of the world hasn't. If you open up travel, people start jetting off to different locations with lower vaccination rates and bringing back new, vaccine resistant variants. Time for the west to stop hoarding all the vaccines, get them out where they needed, then maybe international travel can return to some sort of normality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Danwichmann said: A lot of people in rich counties have been vaccinated. But most of the world hasn't. If you open up travel, people start jetting off to different locations with lower vaccination rates and bringing back new, vaccine resistant variants. But right now aren't we talking about a theoretical danger of vaccine resistant variants? While it seems that the South African strain is more resistant, the people who have caught it after having the vaccine only experienced mild symptoms (if they even got infected as they still have some protection) and as far as I can find in research, no deaths in such cases have been recorded. There could always be a new variant, sure. But right now that doesn't seem to affect the vaccinated population badly. Edited May 4, 2021 by Mic09 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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