Genie Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) Not long ago over 1,800 people were dying every day in the UK alone from the virus. It should put the 7 in 18,000,000 into context. Edited April 3, 2021 by Genie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 1 hour ago, blandy said: I don’t think it’s timing, or unrelated. It seems to be directly related, but extremely rare from the medical evidence. Something about blood platelets in some people, like 1 in 600,000 being affected by the vaccine, and of those tiny number of people affected an even fewer number have died. And it’s all the vaccines, not just one type of COVID jab. I think you are right and that it is related to the vaccine. If it is 1 in 600k being affected and 1 in a million+ who die from it then that is still not bad odds is it. I am not sure the figure of those that get covid who go on to die but it is going to be a hell of a lot more than 1 in a million+. I would not be in the least surprised if as time goes on more side effects, some very serious and deadly, emerge that affect a tiny percentage of people just as with all vaccines/medication. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 About 4 or 5 people a day die in road accidents in the UK. Risk and perception of risk, is fascinating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted April 3, 2021 Administrator Share Posted April 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: About 4 or 5 people a day die in road accidents in the UK. Risk and perception of risk, is fascinating. But how many of them have been vaccinated? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 Football behind closed doors. Late winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) Also football related What a sponge. Hmm, seems like it's a parody, hard to tell these days. Edited April 3, 2021 by StefanAVFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 It’s probably worth reading a couple of his other tweets.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 3, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 3, 2021 43 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: It’s probably worth reading a couple of his other tweets.... The sheer volume of people falling for this parody account is in itself hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted April 3, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Ingram85 said: But is it caused by the vaccines? Indications are that it is. I stress the numbers are tiny, but there appears to be, according to medics, more than a co-incidental link. It's not proven yet, but the likelihood is there is a link - because seeing the same consequence in one population (e.g. Germany) might be co-incidence along the lines people have suggested in this thread. But when the same thing occurs in other countries (Norway, Canada, UK, etc.) it is strongly likely to be related to the vaccine. There may be a small subset of the human race who have a particular make-up which makes them susceptible to blood clotting as a side effect of being vaccinated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted April 3, 2021 Moderator Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, markavfc40 said: I am not sure the figure of those that get covid who go on to die but it is going to be a hell of a lot more than 1 in a million+. Something like 1860 per million population. Well with around 150,000 covid deaths in the UK, 150,000/68 million =0.2% of the population, and in terms of deaths v confirmed cases it's around 3.8% death rate - the 1860 per million is I think based on an estimate that twice as many people have had the virus as have actually been tested and confirmed positive (obviously testing was not available in the early part of the pandemic). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Genie said: Not long ago over 1,800 people were dying every day in the UK alone from the virus. It should put the 7 in 18,000,000 into context. Yes but demographics make a difference. It is overwhelmingly the elderly that die from Covid but the blood clots have been killing young people. That is going to make some young people think twice about whether it’s better to risk the virus than the vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 7 hours ago, stuart_75 said: Yes. I see your Lupo around town regularly Some short ugly bald bloke keeps borrowing it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2021 (edited) 5.2 m on their second dose now. That's a big chunk of the most at risk categories. Edited April 3, 2021 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 38 minutes ago, sidcow said: £5.2 m on their second dose now. That's a big chunk of the most at risk categories. Pricey, but nothing surprises me anymore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Genie said: Pricey, but nothing surprises me anymore. Schoolboy error 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 2 hours ago, darrenm said: Some short ugly bald bloke keeps borrowing it Wonder if he knows the short fat hairy bloke who keeps borrowing my car?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted April 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2021 8 hours ago, markavfc40 said: I think you are right and that it is related to the vaccine. If it is 1 in 600k being affected and 1 in a million+ who die from it then that is still not bad odds is it. I am not sure the figure of those that get covid who go on to die but it is going to be a hell of a lot more than 1 in a million+. I would not be in the least surprised if as time goes on more side effects, some very serious and deadly, emerge that affect a tiny percentage of people just as with all vaccines/medication. Yep, and the AZ vaccine does seem to be the one that is most at the centre of these incidents. However, the truth is that as it is clearly saving so many more lives that there is no real justification for stopping the vaccinations. But I think it's still well worth investigating in case a link can be found and maybe alternative advice given for those that are at risk of being affected. I hope that it continues to be investigated, in case lives can be saved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Genie said: Not long ago over 1,800 people were dying every day in the UK alone from the virus. It should put the 7 in 18,000,000 into context. What context? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted April 3, 2021 Share Posted April 3, 2021 I think people are looking for figures in shadows where they aren’t there with regards AZ at the moment. Every negative if the person had that vaccine then clearly its linked. We have had it for weeks on here, articles posted without comment, Scandinavian correspondent posting about blood clots. It is what it is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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