turnbull Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 12 hours ago, rjw63 said: Sadly with a hairdo like that he's probably going to Leeds. They'd have to remortgage the ground again to afford him. If I was as good as him, I'd have a worse haircut than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Reckon he'll get at least 25 % less goals in the Prem. From highlights reel I've seen from the Bundesliga the defending is laughable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Reckon he'll get at least 25 % less goals in the Prem. From highlights reel I've seen from the Bundesliga the defending is laughable. he got 27 in 28 games last season 25% reduction would mean 20 goals, 3rd highest scorer and a rate of 1.4 which would be better than salah's 1.7 and kanes 1.5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: he got 27 in 28 games last season 25% reduction would mean 20 goals, 3rd highest scorer and a rate of 1.4 which would be better than salah's 1.7 and kanes 1.5 21 goals in 18 Champions League games also. He will be fine but he isnt coming to the Premier League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: 21 goals in 18 Champions League games also. He will be fine but he isnt coming to the Premier League off to help bayern get to 20... i wonder when ze germans will moan about them, i get nothing, they hate RB but never seem fussed over bayern's dominance, id be fuming with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, Zatman said: 21 goals in 18 Champions League games also. He will be fine but he isnt coming to the Premier League It's just a question of when not if he ends up in the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, villa4europe said: off to help bayern get to 20... i wonder when ze germans will moan about them, i get nothing, they hate RB but never seem fussed over bayern's dominance, id be fuming with it I think the difference is Bayern is not like Juventus or United and dont have such a huge fanbase nationally that people dont really care. You rarely see Bayern jerseys about on kids though its more Besiktas in Berlin on kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: It's just a question of when not if he ends up in the Premier League. Is it though? He was born in England but Premier League isnt the be all for top players as we have seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, Zatman said: Is it though? He was born in England but Premier League isnt the be all for top players as we have seen I think he would like to play for 2 or 3 of the top clubs of Europe. But it's not that easy to leave a Real Madrid or Manchester United, just because you want a new challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 There are probably around 10 or so clubs that could potentially afford the buy out clause he'll be on next year but there are far fewer clubs that will be willing to pay the salary package and the agent fees that Haaland, his dad and Raiola will demand. Basically only City, PSG and Real who are realistic options. He want's 3 times than what Pogba is currently on at Manure ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 36 minutes ago, Zatman said: Is it though? He was born in England but Premier League isnt the be all for top players as we have seen It is for most, there’s only a handful of top players that haven’t tried out the Prem at some stage in their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Just now, bannedfromHandV said: It is for most, there’s only a handful of top players that haven’t tried out the Prem at some stage in their careers. Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Kroos, Lahm, Lewandowski(so far) Chiellini, Pirlo, Ronaldinho, Bonucci, Buffon, Sergio Ramos. Its actually the opposite, the great players ignore the Premier League and rarely join at the peak. Ronaldo left at 24 and came back at 36. The only really elite players at the peak to join was probably Lukaku now and David Silva 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 i had a look because i was bored... the UEFA team of the year has been going 20 years so a bit easy thats 220 spots as the best player in europe that year from those 220 spots 128 of them have been filled by players who have never played in the PL, so rounded up 60% never played there, as a rough average it looks like in each 11 man team around 7 of them will never have played in the PL and thats before you then start to look in detail at say thiago silva who played in the end of his career or pique who played at the start, the actual spots taken up by players who were playing in the PL at that time is 49 (22%) compared to bundesliga 12% but la liga has 49% zatman missed off puyol, kimmich, neuer, alaba, kaka, nedved, ronaldinho, zidane, dani alves 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, villa4europe said: i had a look because i was bored... the UEFA team of the year has been going 20 years so a bit easy thats 220 spots as the best player in europe that year from those 220 spots 128 of them have been filled by players who have never played in the PL, so rounded up 60% never played there, as a rough average it looks like in each 11 man team around 7 of them will never have played in the PL and thats before you then start to look in detail at say thiago silva who played in the end of his career or pique who played at the start, the actual spots taken up by players who were playing in the PL at that time is 49 (22%) compared to bundesliga 12% but la liga has 49% zatman missed off puyol, kimmich, neuer, alaba, kaka, nedved, ronaldinho, zidane, dani alves Zlatan did his Manure stint at 34-36 y.o 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted September 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, villa4europe said: i had a look because i was bored... the UEFA team of the year has been going 20 years so a bit easy thats 220 spots as the best player in europe that year from those 220 spots 128 of them have been filled by players who have never played in the PL, so rounded up 60% never played there, as a rough average it looks like in each 11 man team around 7 of them will never have played in the PL and thats before you then start to look in detail at say thiago silva who played in the end of his career or pique who played at the start, the actual spots taken up by players who were playing in the PL at that time is 49 (22%) compared to bundesliga 12% but la liga has 49% zatman missed off puyol, kimmich, neuer, alaba, kaka, nedved, ronaldinho, zidane, dani alves Historically you are right. However I suspect that more top players will join the Premier League at their peak due to the financial disparity between the leagues. There's a reason half the ESL clubs were Premier League based. Barca are bankrupt, Real have saved up for 4 years to try and buy Mbappe and couldn't manage it yet, Juve are selling stars. It's only really PSG who have cash to burn and they're going for older stars on frees at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 hour ago, sne said: There are probably around 10 or so clubs that could potentially afford the buy out clause he'll be on next year but there are far fewer clubs that will be willing to pay the salary package and the agent fees that Haaland, his dad and Raiola will demand. Basically only City, PSG and Real who are realistic options. He want's 3 times than what Pogba is currently on at Manure ffs. he'll go to bayern but im not sure how they'll make those wages work would be good if he told raiola to knock it on the head and just get him to the best club he can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted September 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: he'll go to bayern but im not sure how they'll make those wages work would be good if he told raiola to knock it on the head and just get him to the best club he can Bayern highest wage is Lewa on 350k a week. I'm not sure they can afford him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Rds1983 said: Historically you are right. However I suspect that more top players will join the Premier League at their peak due to the financial disparity between the leagues. There's a reason half the ESL clubs were Premier League based. Barca are bankrupt, Real have saved up for 4 years to try and buy Mbappe and couldn't manage it yet, Juve are selling stars. It's only really PSG who have cash to burn and they're going for older stars on frees at the moment. post corona you would definitely think so but i also think if you went in to the details that wouldnt necessarily be historically true either, theres a lot of money in the PL, theres a lot of players on very good money but when you look at the top earners in world football theres only 2 PL players de gea in 9th and KDB in 8th, only 2 players over £300k a week and no one on the sort of money neymar and griezmann get let alone messi - thats pre ronaldo going back to utd though...but i doubt he's on half of his juve wage i think the rest of europe dont pay their 18 year old 5th choice winger £100k a week like we do but in general the PL has better and more balanced wage structures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rds1983 said: Bayern highest wage is Lewa on 350k a week. I'm not sure they can afford him. the rumour is a million euro a week even the lowest figure i can quickly google is 670.000 a week like i said its a structure thing, bayern have several world class players, how do you have kimmich on 150.000 and haaland 4x more than him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted September 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2021 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: post corona you would definitely think so but i also think if you went in to the details that wouldnt necessarily be historically true either, theres a lot of money in the PL, theres a lot of players on very good money but when you look at the top earners in world football theres only 2 PL players de gea in 9th and KDB in 8th, only 2 players over £300k a week and no one on the sort of money neymar and griezmann get let alone messi - thats pre ronaldo going back to utd though...but i doubt he's on half of his juve wage i think the rest of europe dont pay their 18 year old 5th choice winger £100k a week like we do but in general the PL has better and more balanced wage structures I think that's going to shift as well though. There's some old contracts which skews it slightly and European clubs have bankrupt themselves trying to compete with the Premier League (just look at Barca). They seem to be moving away from these crazy high wages on the continent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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