TRO Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Looking through the FAQ, Its partly because those stats are adjusted as a prediction of how the player would perform the Premier League. His attacking output is actually 57 f your baseline is the Belgium league. I also think its just 50 is the benchmark average for the league, its not like how other rating systems work which would lead to confusion if you're used to those systems. Secondly, attacking output from what I understand is actually based on a player's contribution to chances created. It doesn't take into account goals scored or finishing ability. "NYA's attacking output rating is a measure of contributions to xGF per minute that a player's team is in possession of the ball. A player can not easily advance the ball or create a shot when his team does not have possession. Yet within the time his team has possession, a player may use any number of touches to contribute to xGF. This is why NYA uses minutes in possession as a denominator." xGF I assume is just expected goals for. Expected goals for should purely be a function of chances created. The fact that its denominator is minutes in posession leads me to believe its basically another name for the xG90 Buildup stat that understat uses, only with key passes included. TLDR, I don't think attacking output look at your goals scored at all, just how much you contribute to creating chances. Its just a badly named stat. "simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, thunderball said: Looking forward to watching him play in the same team as Wes too, think they would make a good pair. I know Smith doesn't favour that formation but Wes is used to playing as second striker, and Samatta seems to have that energy up front that we desperately miss. I read somewhere that apparently this was the initial plan. However did not pan out in the summer for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digavilla Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Most importantly hope he’s the type of striker that Smith can coached into his system & playing style , as so far all our current strikers Davis/Wesley / Kodgia are not Smith type of player. This guy looks more mobile / 2 Footed & quick to fire shots , from some the videos .. abit like Chelsa Salomon Kalou type player.. quite confident he will do well under Smith stye & system. Weskey /Al Gazi/Trez missed lots of good chances & if he convert half of those , he would have done well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 16, 2020 I’m a bit excited about this guy. Just want to get him in and playing now. Looks mobile and quick, he’s almost the polar opposite of Wesley, so will be interesting seeing them together next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, DCJonah said: We've managed to stay in the mix for survival with a striker who has scored 5 but who went 11 games without a goal and 4 without a shot on target. He doesn't need to be messi to help keep us up. Nice positive way of looking at things. We are also in the mix for relegation with that performance of course! Edited January 16, 2020 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 What's the plan, Big Wes running interference, While Samatta runs round him in a possible 3-5-2, it maybe the missing ingredient to this spicy dish. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Also, in comparison Grealish's attacking output is 91 according to them in case anyone's interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, briny_ear said: Nice positive way of looking at things. We are also in the mix for relegation with that performance of course! I agree. It's a big part of the reason we are down there. But we've done enough with that to still be in with a chance. My point is we don't need him to be an absolute superstar to keep us up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Ah yeah bring him in, modest wages so he puts it in. Big fck off relegation clause ( need to learn from the silly Gueye one we drew up ) worst case scenario we go down and he bosses the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I agree. It's a big part of the reason we are down there. But we've done enough with that to still be in with a chance. My point is we don't need him to be an absolute superstar to keep us up. We kind of need him to score goals though. This whole " but he links play up well and assists others " NOOOOOOO! Enough of this scutter. Strikers - goals. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Also, in comparison Grealish's attacking output is 91 according to them in case anyone's interested. According to who? What's Samatta's output figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Needs a work permit so won’t play until Bournemouth or Spurs. Don’t think he can play second leg can he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villastine Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Can't seem to post the article. Style of play and strengths While he was trained to be a centre-forward, his style of play thus far indicates that the Tanzanian international is better suited to the forward’s role. Ever since he arrived in Belgium the 24-year-old striker has only further enhanced his reputation as one of the attackers to look out for owing to his abilities on and off the ball. He is very comfortable on the ball, loves to drop deep in a bid to regain possession and can drive past defenders without creating a great deal of fuss with his pace, power and low balance. Off the ball, the player is always a nuisance to the opposition defenders as he is constantly looking at opportunities to break free and often drifts into small pockets of space to create opportunities for himself as well as his teammates. His ability to accelerate rapidly only further enhances the threat he brings to the pitch. Add to that his ability to create chances for his teammates (he assisted six goals during the 2016-17 season which is a rather good return for someone playing so high up in the field) and it is easy to understand why he has been making the transfer rumours column over the last few weeks. Weaknesses While he might be a great asset going forward, there are certain aspects of his game that need fine-tuning and his passing is amongst them. While we agree that he is often passing in spaces that are often very tightly guarded, it has largely been observed that he can be careless with his passing and also has a tendency of picking the wrong pass. Another aspect that he might need to work upon would be his physical frame. Samatta has been touted to move to the English shores and given the pace and physicality of the league, the striker will need to add to his physical frame so as to cope with the demands of the league. What next? The Tanzanian has been linked with a number of teams over the last few weeks with clubs from England, Italy, Germany and Spain believed to be amongst the ones that want him. However, the player has revealed that his priority at the moment is to play consistently and he is looking to stay at Genk until the end of the 2019-20 season. The player was recently quoted as saying, “All I want to do is play. I'm at an age where I have to play. Many teams in Europe have shown interest in recruiting me, but they have to wait until 2020 when my contract with KRC Genk expires.” Bottom line His industry and ability to put his body on the line for the love of the game have made him what he is today and that is evident when you come across excerpts from interviews with his former coaches, colleagues and mentors. One of his very first admirers was the Vice President of his former club Simba SC, Geofrey Nyange who believes Samatta was destined for greatness owing to his hard working attitude and discipline. Nyange was quoted as saying, “I am not surprised that he is doing very well in the top league competition of Europe because I know Samatta very well. I am the one who signed him for Simba in 2010 and also, I am the one who sold and escorted him to TP Mazembe. He is a player with good discipline, seriousness and a determined attitude.” The Tanzanian is a star in his nation irrespective of what he achieves further in his career. However, the captain of the Tanzanian national team seems to be in no mood to stop with his development as a professional footballer and continues to work harder by the day to ensure success. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Watching some vids I'm not totally convinced. But if he comes I wish him the best of luck and of course will back him. I almost feel like this might be a balance between a premiership signing but also with one eye on possible relegation and getting back up..... Will watch a few more vids and see if that can change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 hours ago, jamdog said: I like this one but try this, for the pessimistic: English is not my first language and I struggled to come up with a suitable word for this, so I used a synonyms thesaurus and found among other examples the following: nonsense, babble, baloney, drivel, hogwash, ludicrousness, mumbo jumbo. Feel free to pick which one you want! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) Smith seems to think that we might have a striker signed and available for Saturday, so maybe his work permit isn't going to be as much of an issue as is being reported, or there's another striker on the verge of signing, he did also say that we want more than one forward. Edited January 16, 2020 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: English is not my first language and I struggled to come up with a suitable word for this, so I used a synonyms thesaurus and found among other examples the following: nonsense, babble, baloney, drivel, hogwash, ludicrousness, mumbo jumbo. Feel free to pick which one you want! You won't find any swear words in a thesaurus so allow me, it F##king Boll##ks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 It's funny how we have gone from 'any striker is better than no striker' to 'I'm not sure about this one' in the space of 2 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) ' it has largely been observed that he can be careless with his passing and also has a tendency of picking the wrong pass. " Should fit right in, the confuse the opposition by passing the ball to them tactic should be well and truly unlocked. Can only imagine the interplay between him, Nakamba and Luiz. Lol Edited January 16, 2020 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 In his highlights he reminds me somewhat of Vardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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