GingerCollins29 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: The buzz would wear off awfully quick if his Palace form and injury history carries over. Also I don't hate Benteke. What a stupid comment to make. I hate the idea of signing him Every single time you post negativity about him. No nostalgia in you? Isn't every transfer a risk? Who do you wamt us to sign up front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Every single time you post negativity about him. No nostalgia in you? Isn't every transfer a risk? Who do you wamt us to sign up front? He's scored 4 **** goals in 3 seasons. He's had significant injuries and is currently out 4 games now with "muscle strain" I don't have nostalgia for the Championship. There's probably a bunch of players in a number of leagues that could do a better job that I don't know of because I'm not employed as a football scout. I'd not heard of Jimenez when Wolves signed him, had you? Edited January 13, 2020 by Kiwivillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: He's scored 4 **** goals in 3 seasons. He's had significant injuries and is currently out 4 games now with "muscle strain" I don't have nostalgia for the Championship. There's probably a bunch of players in a number of leagues that could do a better job that I don't know of because I'm not employed as a football scout Players get injured. You dont suddenly become bad player overnight. Many factors involved. Surely theres a part of you that can see how it might just work in our favour. I would rather him up top then vassilev or no1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Players get injured. You dont suddenly become bad player overnight. Many factors involved. Surely theres a part of you that can see how it might just work in our favour. I would rather him up top then vassilev or no1. 4 goals in 64 games is pretty pathetic. If we signed Andy Carroll, Fernando Torres or Danny Welbeck with similar recent records then people woukd rightly be pissed. Benteke no exception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Id be more pissed not signing any striker. If we sign him im happy to eat himble pie if it goes wrong. I just think it would work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Id be more pissed not signing any striker. If we sign him im happy to eat himble pie if it goes wrong. I just think it would work! People eating humble pie over Benteke going wrong wouldn't comfort me if we got relegated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Don't work. People's perceptions on here who want him are based on nostalgia rather than the facts that he is older, carries more injuries and has "Hoganesque" form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: People eating humble pie over Benteke going wrong wouldn't comfort me if we got relegated Ok mate. Still havent told me who is out there that you would want? No need to be a scout by the way, opinions are ok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Ok mate. Still havent told me who is out there that you would want? No need to be a scout by the way, opinions are ok! I’ll help, Lawrence Shankland and Ivan Toney both will improve us no end, both are quick skilful and can finish. Plus they are a little ‘spikey’ too and I don’t mean their hairstyles. They wont cost the Earth either. Oh and one more thing both are currently better than Christian ‘im now an injury prone crock of shit’ Benteke. And they will be worth a hell of lot more too in a season or two . Edited January 13, 2020 by Sulberto21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: I’ll help, Lawrence Shankland and Ivan Toney both will improve us no end, both are quick skilful and can finish. Plus they are a little ‘spikey’ too and I don’t mean their hairstyles. They wont cost the Earth either. Oh and one more thing both are currently better than Christian ‘im now an injury prone crock of shit’ Benteke. And they will be worth a hell of lot more too in a season or two . Ivan toney hasnt even scored in the championship, yet hes expected to fire us to safety? Benteke has proved he can score goals in the prem and in big games. Shankland i cant comment on, never seen him play, but scotland is trash generally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Ivan toney hasnt even scored in the championship, yet hes expected to fire us to safety? Benteke has proved he can score goals in the prem and in big games. Shankland i cant comment on, never seen him play, but scotland is trash generally All Benteke has proved is he’s got more injuries than goals in the last three years. He’s not firing anyone to safety. If we signed Toney and or Shankland they will score more goals for us in the premier league than Benteke Mk2 will. I don’t think anyone who wants him is comprehending the injuries he’s had have seriously limited his game. ‘If we get him fit and firing’ . Benteke is currently injured! Again. As for Scotland being trash McGinn and Robertson haven’t done too badly. They’re the outstanding ones. There are enough solid Scottish players playing in the Prem to say they have the ability to make an impact in England’s top league. The two strikers I’ve mentioned have the raw ingredients necessary the rest is up to their mentality and then the coaching staff to get the best out of them if we took a punt on them. Sentiment will get us relegated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 A Benteke comeback will be the football equivalent of Ali's comeback against Holmes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 A Benteke comeback will be the football equivalent of "Speed 2: Cruise Control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Sulberto21 said: All Benteke has proved is he’s got more injuries than goals in the last three years. He’s not firing anyone to safety. If we signed Toney and or Shankland they will score more goals for us in the premier league than Benteke Mk2 will. I don’t think anyone who wants him is comprehending the injuries he’s had have seriously limited his game. ‘If we get him fit and firing’ . Benteke is currently injured! Again. As for Scotland being trash McGinn and Robertson haven’t done too badly. They’re the outstanding ones. There are enough solid Scottish players playing in the Prem to say they have the ability to make an impact in England’s top league. The two strikers I’ve mentioned have the raw ingredients necessary the rest is up to their mentality and then the coaching staff to get the best out of them if we took a punt on them. Sentiment will get us relegated. but Shankland though is playing in Scottish 2nd tier, has never scored in top flight. Would be a huge step up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I'm on the fence about Benteke. On the one hand I'd love to see him come back and score goals that keep us in the league. But you have to understand we won't be signing the Benteke we sold. He's just not the player he used to be. But that doesn't mean he can't make a difference. The talk now is a loan to the end of the season, I think I would take that if there is an option to buy in the summer but it's not mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 12 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: People eating humble pie over Benteke going wrong wouldn't comfort me if we got relegated Unless I've totally misjudged the noises coming from VP - we aren't going to be spending big money - therefore relegation is a distinct possibility anyway, whoever we bring in. We need to rely on someone a bit shit hitting form for 3 months - Be that Benteke, Rodriguez, Murray etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjvilla Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 11 hours ago, Sulberto21 said: I’ll help, Lawrence Shankland and Ivan Toney both will improve us no end, both are quick skilful and can finish. Plus they are a little ‘spikey’ too and I don’t mean their hairstyles. They wont cost the Earth either. Oh and one more thing both are currently better than Christian ‘im now an injury prone crock of shit’ Benteke. And they will be worth a hell of lot more too in a season or two . I bought this up with another poster. Toney failed at Newcastle in his big move and has a generally terrible scoring record before this season. I'm still waiting to find out what it is that makes people think he could score premier league goals. I'm not advocating Benteke at all, just stating that the answer isn't as easy as picking the top scorer in league 1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2020 The good people at the mail has done some top notch journalism work and used Football Manager to see how a loan of Benteke would pan out. Quote We used Football Manager 2020 to try and predict Villa's possible future with Benteke back in the team. To set up this simulation, we used the Football Manager 2020 in-game editor to arrange the loan transfer of Benteke from Crystal Palace to Villa on January 1st 2020. We also arranged the loan signings of Pepe Reina and Danny Drinkwater, whilst also adding in long-tem injuries to the profiles of Wesley and Tom Heaton to make the game more realistic. We then simulated the entire 2019/20 season to see what kind of impact Benteke would have for Villa. You can see how Benteke's profile looks in Football Manager 2020 below. Overall, Benteke scored five league goals in 15 league appearances from January until the end of the season, also registering an assist. Thanks to some great results in the last part of the season, Villa amassed 45 points in the Premier League in our simulation, which was good enough for an 11th place league finish, nine points above Newcastle United in 17th. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/christian-benteke-aston-villa-transfer-17565844 Well done, well done. Slow week on the transfer front I guess... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted January 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, sne said: The good people at the mail has done some top notch journalism work and used Football Manager to see how a loan of Benteke would pan out. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/christian-benteke-aston-villa-transfer-17565844 Well done, well done. Slow week on the transfer front I guess... Why is this news?! Utterly hopeless as a newspaper, why do they still exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, cyrusr said: Why is this news?! Utterly hopeless as a newspaper, why do they still exist? More importantly I want to know how much they pay for someone to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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