Zatman Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 To end this Drinkwater discussion because im sick of talking about the rocket polisher. If you spend all season criticising Grealish but insist this idiot is a good player then I would question your player judgement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Zatman said: To end this Drinkwater discussion because im sick of talking about the rocket polisher. If you spend all season criticising Grealish but insist this idiot is a good player then I would question your player judgement Have you seen my most recent posts in the Grealish thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: Djimi Traore and Igor Biscan won the Champions League, Danny Simpson, Tom Cleverley and Darron Gibson won the Premier League, Dejan Lovren is about to do so as well. Shit players can be lucky enough to win trophies. A one off season carried by Kante wont impress me Every squad has fillers, squads are very rarely full of world class stars these days, it’s a team game after all. He won the league, the best league in the world and that won’t impress you, you’re hard to please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Drinkwater did well for Leicester the season they won, he was carried by Kanté but still. But it seem like after he got his big money move and got to a team i Chelsea who had competition for places he he decided to down tools rather than fight for his place. U can't just not try for 3 seasons and then expect to be able o perform again. Especially if you are pushing 30 and have been drinking during season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, sne said: Drinkwater did well for Leicester the season they won, he was carried by Kanté but still. But it seem like after he got his big money move and got to a team i Chelsea who had competition for places he he decided to down tools rather than fight for his place. U can't just not try for 3 seasons and then expect to be able o perform again. Especially if you are pushing 30 and have been drinking during season. Do you think his Villa career is over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, sir_gary_cahill said: Do you think his Villa career is over? I think his contract with us will be over before we play football again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Had a look on a Leicester forum around the time we signed him and found a thread where they were talking about their favourite player from season when they won the league, the three players getting the most mentions were Vardy, Kanté and Drinkwater, he was one of their best players that season, and wasn't carried by Kanté anymore than any other player that plays alongside Kanté are carried by him, they have different skillsets anyway, saying that Kanté carries Drinkwater, would be like someone trying to claim that Grealish carries McGinn. Drinkwater had also been one of their best players when they were promoted and during their survival season, he might not be very good now but at his best he was on a completely different level to the likes of Cattermole. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilS Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, sne said: U can't just not try for 3 seasons and then expect to be able o perform again. Especially if you are pushing 30 and have been drinking during season. 100% agree. This is a trap we seem to have continually fallen into over the last ten years, and was one I hoped we would stop falling into. Players like Richards, Lescott, Drinkwater etc who are living on past glories of 2-3+ years previous, rarely manage to pick those former glories back up. There is usually a reason said players have not reached previous highs for a number of seasons. One being injury, one being hunger and another being it was their peak and they’re now on the slide. We need to pick up more players on the rise, not the fall! I think/hope Drinkwater was a desperate move, and we won’t see many more moves like this from now on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, useless said: Had a look on a Leicester forum around the time we signed him and found a thread where they were talking about their favourite player from season when they won the league, the three players getting the most mentions were Vardy, Kanté and Drinkwater, he was one of their best players that season, and wasn't carried by Kanté anymore than any other player that plays alongside Kanté are carried by him, they have different skillsets anyway, saying that Kanté carries Drinkwater, would be like someone trying to claim that Grealish carries McGinn. Drinkwater had also been one of their best players when they were promoted and during their survival season, he might not be very good now but at his best he was on a completely different level to the likes of Cattermole. Kanté carried their whole team. He was the best player in the world that season. CR7 and Messi possibly excluded. Had Drinkwater played alongside anyone else it would not have worked. Kanté did 2 players work. This doesn't mean Drinkwater wasn't good that season but Kanté was immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubbs Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, sne said: U can't just not try for 3 seasons and then expect to be able o perform again. Especially if you are pushing 30 and have been drinking during season. Which begs the question why did we sign him in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, dubbs said: Which begs the question why did we sign him in the first place? Honestly no idea. Desperation, Terry, misguided faith, poor judgement, aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Kanté carrying the Leicester team is different from him carrying Drinkwater, you could have put Kanté in any team during that period and he would have improved them, doesn't take away from what a good player Drinkwater was back then though, in the same way that you could say that Grealish carries our team, but doesn't take away from other good individual performers like McGinn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just now, useless said: Kanté carrying the Leicester team is different from him carrying Drinkwater, you could have put Kanté in any team during that period and he would have improved them, doesn't take away from what a good player Drinkwater was back then though, in the same way that you could say that Grealish carries our team, but doesn't take away from other good individual performers like McGinn. So pretty much what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I said it first. You said Drinkwater was carried by Kanté, which isn't what I'm saying at all. Leicester were an improved team with Kanté playing, but that's not the same as him carrying Drinkwater or any of their other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Would be interested to see a list of all players from top 4-5 clubs who leave them at 28 and become key players at other clubs. For every Phil Neville who did well at Everton after leaving Man. United you also have a Nicky Butt who got relegated at Newcastle and SHA after leaving. Drinkwater just had Sidwell vibes. Players who simply don't play for a long time just lose that intensity and edge (add in desire if they're getting ridiculous wages while being benched). Drinkwater last played regularly in 16-17 season so hell of a long time ago and bit naive to think he'd get up to speed after 2-3 games if that really was our thinking. He's one of those that needs a six week boot camp pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, useless said: I said it first. You said Drinkwater was carried by Kanté, which isn't what I'm saying at all. Leicester were an improved team with Kanté playing, but that's not the same as him carrying Drinkwater or any of their other players. I maintain he was carrying their whole team. Without him they would never been able to play that 4-4-2 like they did. He did 2 players job in CM. And as Drinkwater was playing directly next to him he was helped more than anyone else in their team by Kanté. But once again Drinkwater did a good job. Ranieri did a fantastic job with the limited squad and used their main players extremely intelligently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VardyParty Posted April 8, 2020 Visiting Supporter Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) On 06/04/2020 at 07:33, Zatman said: He played every week but he isnt a stand out. His only good Premier League season was because he played next to Kante. Of the regular starting 11 he along with Danny Simpson were the weakest players Leicester fan in peace. Just wanted to give my own opinion on Drinkwater. Firstly, the statement above and the various posts about Drinkwater ‘being carried’ in 15/16 or whatever, is false. Kante wasn’t helping Drinkwater ping 60 yard balls to our attackers, or helping him track his own runners, make his own tackles, his own passes, etc. Yes Kante is world class, but so was Danny in 15/16. Also he was far from being our ‘weakest player’ alongside Simpson. I’d rate him tied in 4th/5th with Huth, behind Vardy, Kante & Mahrez. He also carried that form into the following season, when all our other players were awful. Drinkwater was the only one to stay consistent. In my opinion, the current state of Drinkwater’s decline isn’t because he’s a ‘bad player and always has been’. He’s always had ability and I’ve watched your games since he joined and i’ve seen glimpses of his former self, mainly in his passing range, not much else. An important moment in Drinkwaters career which non-Leicester fans are probably unaware of, was towards the end of the 16/17 season when he had an operation for an ongoing hip flexor injury which he’d been playing through all year. After his return from the operation, I saw a different player. My observation was clear after a few performances for Chelsea. The hard working, dynamic, physical, energetic engine was gone. I have hope Drinkwater can mend his career, although maybe reuniting with Pearson at Watford would have been a better move. Anyway I hope we’ll be seeing Villa competing in the PL for the long term. Edited April 8, 2020 by VardyParty 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Quote Footie ace Danny Drinkwater’s trendy restaurant racks up debts of nearly £2million in just one year FoodWell aims to combine wholesome food with fitness classes. But the ex-Leicester and Chelsea star’s brainchild has had a troubled start, according to his accounts. Books lodged with government department Companies House show it has liabilities of £1.7 million and cash reserves of just £8,435. The restaurant in Manchester’s city centre, which employs 45 people, had been proving a hit with diners and got good reviews online. It has assets in the shape of equipment and stock of £725,962. Last month the dad-of-one was sent home from training at Premier League strugglers Aston Villa after a bust-up with a team-mate. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Looks like he's been working on his abs during quarantine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 His deal should be up June 1 st , wonder if we will keep him on. With everyone having to get back to fitness he will be on level playing field , he wasn't great but a better option than Lansbury on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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