KenjiOgiwara Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, KentVillan said: Matt Targett is an excellent crosser of the ball, for example, and a few of his crosses this season should have resulted in goals, but didn't. Yeah I am not sure about that. Quite vividly remember a lot of his attempts not beating the first defender. Doesn't really matter of we fill the squad with giants or work at set pieces when you can't even get the cross past the first defender. Edited December 31, 2019 by KenjiOgiwara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 It's all Wesley's fault IIRC - him not diving at the shins of the full back to head it in from 18 yards out or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Set pieces are a disgrace. In open play it's a mixed bag and should be improved. I have seen decent balls go in but our striker is no where to be seen, that doesn't help. If we had someone like Abraham up front we'd be converting more crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 I just find it really weird how a footballer(s) that's paid a normal annual salary weekly, can't strike a bloody ball. I am not at the level these guys are at anything in football, but I swear I can strike the ball better. It's all just akward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted December 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2019 When we've finished talking about our crossing.... ... can we please talk about our throw-ins? It's not that hard to find your own player, surely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashingqwerty Posted December 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, ozvillafan said: When we've finished talking about our crossing.... ... can we please talk about our throw-ins? It's not that hard to find your own player, surely. The throws aren't bad exactly, its the fault of the statues being thrown to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Seeing the title of this thread - I thought it was about Aston Villa in a spiritual sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted December 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2019 i'd rename the thread 'jacks crossing' there are many that can deliver a good ball. conor, luiz, elmo, targett. but jack seems to have the sole corner taking responsibility, despite being **** atrocious at it. i love the guy, but there's just some things he cannot do, and crossing is one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 39 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i'd rename the thread 'jacks crossing' there are many that can deliver a good ball. conor, luiz, elmo, targett. but jack seems to have the sole corner taking responsibility, despite being **** atrocious at it. i love the guy, but there's just some things he cannot do, and crossing is one It's just as much watching Elmo, Guilbert, Targett, Taylor, El Ghazi, Hourihane (pretty much everyone) not being able to move it past the first defender. Jack has a tendency to hoof it high towards to goalie, which is shit as well, but at least it's better than striking it into the first bloody defender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted December 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: It's just as much watching Elmo, Guilbert, Targett, Taylor, El Ghazi, Hourihane (pretty much everyone) not being able to move it past the first defender. Jack has a tendency to hoof it high towards to goalie, which is shit as well, but at least it's better than striking it into the first bloody defender. most of the the players you mentioned have, at some stage this season, assisted a goal via a cross (obviously not taylor...not sure about el ghazi). jack just floats it in and it's so easy to defend against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 10 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: Terrible crosses, terrible throw ins, not leaving someone on the halfway line for opposition corners - all result in the ball coming straight back at us. Very annoying. WDFAFCTIAC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: Terrible crosses, terrible throw ins, not leaving someone on the halfway line for opposition corners - all result in the ball coming straight back at us. Very annoying. WDFAFCTIAC Edited December 31, 2019 by the_eristic Double post but it bears repeating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2019 Why bother cross the ball? There's never anyone in the box. If there is, he (Wesley) is standing put flat-footed and ball-watching. We shouldn't cross the ball at all. Chester used to score from crosses and corners every now and then, because he had the instincts. Our current CBs, Mings included, might as well stay at half way line. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Our crossing has been poor recently but haven't we scored a lot of our goals from crosses this year? They're not all headers and are put along the floor sometimes but I can think of: McGinn v Arsenal Wes v Norwich Trez v Wolves, Liverpool & Chelsea El Ghazi v Newcastle Mings v Man U Grealish v Brighton McGinn and El Ghazi v Burnley Personally, I can tell when Villa have played well this season from whether we play triangles on the corner of the opposition box. Normally this is best between Grealish, Hourihane, and Targett. The balls into he box are a lot more precise when this happens. It seems during our poor run we don't do that anymore and rarely work the ball up the pitch...we just punt it instead or rush a cross in and give the ball back. A bigger problem is how many we concede from crosses. We don't stop the ball in well enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 We're pretty rubbish at everything, unless we improve soon, there's going to come a time where we have to admit that either our players aren't very good and that we've pretty much wasted £140m in the last transfer window, or there's serisomething wrong with the coaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted December 31, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, May-Z said: Our crossing has been poor recently but haven't we scored a lot of our goals from crosses this year? They're not all headers and are put along the floor sometimes but I can think of: McGinn v Arsenal Wes v Norwich Trez v Wolves, Liverpool & Chelsea El Ghazi v Newcastle Mings v Man U Grealish v Brighton McGinn and El Ghazi v Burnley Personally, I can tell when Villa have played well this season from whether we play triangles on the corner of the opposition box. Normally this is best between Grealish, Hourihane, and Targett. The balls into he box are a lot more precise when this happens. It seems during our poor run we don't do that anymore and rarely work the ball up the pitch...we just punt it instead or rush a cross in and give the ball back. A bigger problem is how many we concede from crosses. We don't stop the ball in well enough. It's the same problem. We're either very poor headers, pushed around, or unable to position and anticipate correctly. Or, of course, poorly set up. Probably a combination of all these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, AVTuco said: Why bother cross the ball? There's never anyone in the box. If there is, he (Wesley) is standing put flat-footed and ball-watching. We shouldn't cross the ball at all. Chester used to score from crosses and corners every now and then, because he had the instincts. Our current CBs, Mings included, might as well stay at half way line. It is a bit strange that we continue to be among the teams who crosses the ball most of all teams in the league (3rd) but still have very few players in the box to be on the end of those crosses. Not even our center forward is there most times. The odds of these crosses finding someone are slim to non. We really must adjust the way we play or find players who are suited to the way we want to play. Bit worrying that Smith has not seen this and tweaked it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, useless said: We're pretty rubbish at everything, unless we improve soon, there's going to come a time where we have to admit that either our players aren't very good and that we've pretty much wasted £140m in the last transfer window, or there's serisomething wrong with the coaching. People keep saying 140, yet BBC and everything I can find say it was 127. Guess £140 million sounds worse though, so lets use that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I'd probably go for an issue with the wingers. Mings, Engels and Hause are all strong in the air. I think Mings and Hause are high up in the clearances and blocks charts too. Our wingers have been poor going forward but also kill our full backs with a lack of support. That should have be resolved with work on the training ground by now...or at least a change in formation to counteract it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Purslow said £140m when he spoke with the fans whilst we were in the US in the summer. Doesn't matter how much anyway, the point is at some point if we don't improve then either coaching or the recruitment will have to be questioned. Edited December 31, 2019 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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