briny_ear Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 44 minutes ago, nick76 said: Does anybody seriously think Smith is going to be sacked in the near future? Let’s say by the end of January. I think there is zero chance of that happening. Sounds like people are keen for a change but do they think the board will, I don’t. Feels like this thread is redundant because despite some of the fans wanting a change it isn’t going to happen. You’re suggesting the board will be content with relegation this season (which is a strong bet if we stick with Smith). In which case I want an immediate statement from the board explaining why they think it is OK for us to be relegated and to hang on to a manager who clearly couldn’t cope in the first tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 I wonder is Suso has any managerial contacts in Spain who’d fancy the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2019/december/28-december/west-ham-united-statement Looks like west ham have gone quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Pochettino is as delusional as it gets, he's a shoe in for any next top job that becomes available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 2 hours ago, villalad21 said: Allardyce. Don't care what anyone says. Fergie has said he's an underrated manager and i tend to agree. Allardyce is very good and effective at what he does. People laugh at this but Fat Sam has never been relegated. His style of play isn't pretty but we're not exactly playing lovely football under Smith - Southampton, Norwich and Watford (all crap teams) have outplayed us in the last 2 weeks, two of them at VP. I voted Poch but we're too much of a shambles of a football club for him to even consider it - maybe 10,15,20 years ago but not now. Rafa would be more realistic as he's managed Newcastle who are also a basketcase football club but Rafa is a glorified version of Allardyce - both would play pretty much the same style with an emphasis on defending well and nicking three points from set pieces, a long ball, a counter attack etc. So either of them for me - at least we'd be able to defend and be hard to beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, briny_ear said: You’re suggesting the board will be content with relegation this season (which is a strong bet if we stick with Smith). In which case I want an immediate statement from the board explaining why they think it is OK for us to be relegated and to hang on to a manager who clearly couldn’t cope in the first tier. Agreed , the financial outlay in the summer wasn’t that of a board who were thinking of relegation - I don’t think a few million in paying off smith would bother them if a better option is available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, cheltenham_villa said: https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2019/december/28-december/west-ham-united-statement Looks like west ham have gone quickly I was hoping that would be us but no, even Wet Spam act quicker than we do. And they lost to a much better team than us today by a more respectable scoreline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Just now, Eastie said: I wonder is Suso has any managerial contacts in Spain who’d fancy the job The same guy who recommended Wesley and Trezeguet, no thanks, we'd end up with a clown like Tata Martino. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 minute ago, VillaFaninLondon said: People laugh at this but Fat Sam has never been relegated. His style of play isn't pretty but we're not exactly playing lovely football under Smith - Southampton, Norwich and Watford (all crap teams) have outplayed us in the last 2 weeks, two of them at VP. He was relegated at Notts County Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Eastie said: I wonder is Suso has any managerial contacts in Spain who’d fancy the job Anyone got a list of all the managers at clubs where he was employed. All I know is I think he was at Valencia the same time as Benitez. Could be one to wince at some of the names. From Spain Marcelinho is the obvious out of work manager who isn't totally past it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Eastie said: I wonder is Suso has any managerial contacts in Spain who’d fancy the job Hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Just now, Zatman said: He was relegated at Notts County Sorry, I meant in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Zatman said: He was relegated at Notts County In the premier league. Where he's been managing for most of the last 20 years. Conte, Wenger and Klopp actually all have relegations on their CV from the early part of their career so I wouldn't even say managers should be dismissed if they have been relegated unless they're in relegation battles at every club they're at. Edited December 28, 2019 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, briny_ear said: You’re suggesting the board will be content with relegation this season (which is a strong bet if we stick with Smith). In which case I want an immediate statement from the board explaining why they think it is OK for us to be relegated and to hang on to a manager who clearly couldn’t cope in the first tier. No of course not but then I don’t think it is a strong bet that we will be relegated if we stick with Smith. I will go even further and suggest the likely candidates of manager we could get would do no better than Smith. As I’ve put in prior posts, that unless a Poch or equal I’m sticking with Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Feet Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 2 hours ago, sne said: Fergie also recommended us to sign McLeish. Isn’t McLeish available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) Marcelino was manager at Valencia during Suso's second spell with them as far I can work out, well they were both their in 2017 according to wikipedia. Edit: Marcelino came in just after Pitarch left. Edited December 28, 2019 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, nick76 said: No of course not but then I don’t think it is a strong bet that we will be relegated if we stick with Smith. I will go even further and suggest the likely candidates of manager we could get would do no better than Smith. As I’ve put in prior posts, that unless a Poch or equal I’m sticking with Smith. I think if we stick with smith it’s extremely likely we will go down and probably finish 20th Edited December 28, 2019 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I can. Fortunately I think we got very sensible ownership who understands the importance of long term thinking, continuity and following a set plan. A few disgruntled fans who will bitch and moan no matter what don't interest them a whole lot. Do you think their long term thinking and following a set plan involves been relegated? I dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 minute ago, holteend1982 said: Do you think their long term thinking and following a set plan involves been relegated? I dont. Me neither. They are business men and will be making decisions based on £££. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 Just now, holteend1982 said: Do you think their long term thinking and following a set plan involves been relegated? I dont. I think everyone at the club, and most realistic fans, so it as a distinct possibility when we came up through the play offs having been a mid table championship side. Deano just promoted us earlier than anyone expected. This is probably also why we shopped a lot of young players that will gel and develop over time. Cause it's about more than this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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