Popular Post Keyblade Posted January 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2020 Can't read the name N'Zonzi without my Charles PTSD flaring up. 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, hippo said: Covered a lot of bases there mate. Bruh, I just realized I posted this in the wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cyrusr Posted January 14, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, hippo said: I just think in the main we have brought a load of rubbish. As I said earlier we have seen darker times - the big worry for me is that we seem to have limited ideas at the very top of the club. Sorry @hippo I completely disagree. No it wasn't an awful window, we had to have a huge turnaround in players. Of those that were not on loan last season, only arguably Grealish, McGinn, Hourihane, Lansbury, Steer, Elmohamady, Chester, Kodjia and Taylor were going to be around the 1st team. That's 9 players. We needed to practically sign a full team because of the numbers that were not good enough. We had 20 (including youth) players leave permanently and 7 go out on loan. That was the big issue with the transfer policies with previous regimes but that is a different point. Of those that we have brought in some have been wonderful (Mings, Heaton), others have definitely shown glimpses of being really good players. Not a few months ago people were singing the praises of Nakamba, Engels, Targett and Luiz. Some players are off form but surely you can expect that every now and then? El Ghazi, Konsa, Trezeguet, Hause and Wesley have had moments where they have looked the real deal. Some haven't been as good as we would hope for (Jota, Wesley) but still you expect there to be some that struggle. Every transfer is a gamble is it not? We also had a tough run of games of Man City, Liverpool, Wolverhampton, Newcastle, Man City, Chelsea and Leicester. Only Newcastle was an "easy" game for 3 points. We have had a poor month in December where we struggled to get points we should have done, but then in hindsight it clear that actually Southampton and Watford have hit form and are not that surprising in the grand scheme of things. Let us also not forget that whilst we are in the relegation zone, we are only 1 point away from coming out of it again. Come the Spurs game on 16 February we actually could be safely mid table again. In theory we could even be on level points with Spurs. Baring the top of the table, its actually pretty tight. We have brought in 2 premier league experienced players to cover massive injuries which were completely unexpected. There are also clear signs that we are looking at strengthening still this window, of which we are not even half way through. Sure Drinkwater didn't impress against Man City, but were we really banking on 1 or 3 points in that game? No, anything got from the game would have been bonus. Brighton/Watford/Bournemouth are far bigger and more important games, of which all are winnable games. We showed at Burnley and Leicester that this system can work, particularly away from home. This season is far from over, this window is far from over and certainly you cannot judge the summer window based on the last month of football. This is not like 2015/6 and I know you are of the same view. That team was dead and buried and utterly off the pace by this time already. I will say it again, 1 point from safety. That is all. We have 16 games to get 17-19 points. Please can we all just have a little perspective please? 19 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramshackler Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Am I right in thinking, as we are only allowed to register two loan players at once. that as we have signed Drinkwater and Reina, we are unable to sign any strikers on loan? If that's right what the fook are we playing at?? Drinkwater was an absolutely nothing signing. Reina I understand but now we are seeing a few clubs open to striker loans and we are totally out of the frame. Just do not understand it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teale's 'tache Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Potential and numbers mean nothing if we get relegated. As for value, I don't see anyone buying Nakamba, Trezeguet, Wesley and Targett off us for more than we paid. The individual errors are because they aren't good enough. If we had no numbers we couldn't put out a team, if we don't bother with potential then there's no planning for the future. We needed more experience and another striker, we came up short, but lets not pretend every signing we made was a waste of time. We're three points of safety, it's not like we've done a Fulham. Grealish, Mings and Heaton have all made errors that have lead to us conceding, are they not good enough? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannedfromHandV Posted January 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, ramshackler said: Am I right in thinking, as we are only allowed to register two loan players at once. that as we have signed Drinkwater and Reina, we are unable to sign any strikers on loan? If that's right what the fook are we playing at?? Drinkwater was an absolutely nothing signing. Reina I understand but now we are seeing a few clubs open to striker loans and we are totally out of the frame. Just do not understand it Question has been posed and answered on every page of this thread for the past 3 weeks I think.......... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 19 minutes ago, cyrusr said: Please can we all just have a little perspective please? Great positivity, hope all these things are being drilled into the players! It's possible to stay up, but lose these next three confidence will be shot and we're gone. Some signings have just been straight up poor though, and if we do get relegated we've missed a history altering chance with recruitment that isn't nearly good enough and it's gutting. That's what's really stinging me watching us struggle. Go down we lose once in a lifetime talent in Grealish. I'm not looking forward to watching Wes, Targett, Nakamba and Trez struggle in the Championship. If we pull off a miracle and stay up we need to replace all them as well as others, that highlights how poor the summer was exciting as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Great positivity, hope all these things are being drilled into the players! It's possible to stay up, but lose these next three confidence will be shot and we're gone. Some signings have just been straight up poor though, and if we do get relegated we've missed a history altering chance with recruitment that isn't nearly good enough and it's gutting. That's what's really stinging me watching us struggle. Go down we lose once in a lifetime talent in Grealish. I'm not looking forward to watching Wes, Targett, Nakamba and Trez struggle in the Championship. If we pull off a miracle and stay up we need to replace all them as well as others, that highlights how poor the summer was exciting as it was. Are you kidding me? If everything was rosy what would you and others moan about day in day out? They would be fine in the Championship. Targett has even proven that already. Edited January 14, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 New signing unveiled for the fans. Some will love him. Others will hate him, take your pick. Seriously though let’s see how the next 3 games go before we completely give up hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: Are you kidding me? If everything rosy what would you and others moan about day in day out? They would be fine in the Championship. If it gets too quiet I'll bring up how we should have signed Maupay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, ramshackler said: Am I right in thinking, as we are only allowed to register two loan players at once. that as we have signed Drinkwater and Reina, we are unable to sign any strikers on loan? If that's right what the fook are we playing at?? Drinkwater was an absolutely nothing signing. Reina I understand but now we are seeing a few clubs open to striker loans and we are totally out of the frame. Just do not understand it No you are not right, so don’t worry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 14, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2020 Can't believe we haven't signed a striker yet... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Great positivity, hope all these things are being drilled into the players! It's possible to stay up, but lose these next three confidence will be shot and we're gone. Some signings have just been straight up poor though, and if we do get relegated we've missed a history altering chance with recruitment that isn't nearly good enough and it's gutting. That's what's really stinging me watching us struggle. Go down we lose once in a lifetime talent in Grealish. I'm not looking forward to watching Wes, Targett, Nakamba and Trez struggle in the Championship. If we pull off a miracle and stay up we need to replace all them as well as others, that highlights how poor the summer was exciting as it was. I don’t think we’ll need to replace all. Heaton, Mings, McGinn, Jack are definitely the deal. Guilbert, Targett, Konsa, Luiz all have good potential. Nakamba, El Ghazi, Hause, Engels are all good squad players. We definitely need a forward and two wingers atleast. Possibly a beast midfielder. But first of all we need to get results now then think of summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Can't believe we haven't signed a striker yet... I'm actually shocked, well with the fact that we aren't even properly linked with anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 The media knew about Drinkwater and Reina at least a week before they signed, and same with Barry if he signs, but with strikers we're getting no definite links just tenuous links and guesswork, which makes me think that nothing is close at the moment, and we'll probably have to wait until the end of window before someone comes in. Think it was the same in the summer most players we had an idea that they were going to sign long before they actually did, only exception I can think of is Wesley, and even he didn't officially sign for weeks, although the announcement itself came out of the blue. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 It's interesting to look at the performance of other summer signings that make ours look not that bad. Moise Kean, Pepe, Joelinton, Haller, etc- it's not easy to find a bargain - plenty of wasted cash about. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Is there anything genuine at all about the Nzonzi link, would sort out midfield right away. Disappointing that another day has gone by with no striker signed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 N'Zonzi is this season's Leroy Fer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaveAV1 Posted January 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, useless said: The media knew about Drinkwater and Reina at least a week before they signed, and same with Barry if he signs, but with strikers we're getting no definite links just tenuous links and guesswork, which makes me think that nothing is close at the moment, and we'll probably have to wait until the end of window before someone comes in. Think it was the same in the summer most players we had an idea that they were going to sign long before they actually did, only exception I can think of is Wesley, and even he didn't officially sign for weeks, although the announcement itself came out of the blue. That’s rather colourful language. 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 14, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: New signing unveiled for the fans. Some will love him. Others will hate him, take your pick. Seriously though let’s see how the next 3 games go before we completely give up hope. That glass is too big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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