hippo Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, deeps said: I’ll be shocked if Smith even wants Benteke Id be shocked if wanted Nkamba and Wesley. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 Regards Benteke, & i know it's boring now so this is all i'll say , When he was here in his prime i'm sure he used to start the season poorly and had spells when he couldn't score for lengthy periods, but then he would suddenly spark into life & score for fun? Not saying he'd do that now of course but just imagine if he had an extended 3 year drought followed by a prolonged scoring spell.... Ok i'll stop it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, cyrusr said: Thanks for that. See as well West Ham are linked for what its worth. It's more interesting than the back and forth in relation to Benteke! Barbosa's next move will be a huge one for him, he had the massive reputation before he went to inter (near Neymar level, he was the next one in line) failed there, went to Benfica failed there, got the 2 loans back to brazil and dragged his reputation back, now if he joins someone like Chelsea and is a bit part player and does nothing of merit he's then 27/28 having to step down again and re-establish himself a move to us or west ham probably isn't what he wants or what will happen but I think its a more realistic approach to him getting to the very top when he hits 30 years old, he needs a couple of good years as a great player in an average team rather than being an average player in a great team 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted January 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 10, 2020 Just now, villa4europe said: Barbosa's next move will be a huge one for him, he had the massive reputation before he went to inter (near Neymar level, he was the next one in line) failed there, went to Benfica failed there, got the 2 loans back to brazil and dragged his reputation back, now if he joins someone like Chelsea and is a bit part player and does nothing of merit he's then 27/28 having to step down again and re-establish himself a move to us or west ham probably isn't what he wants or what will happen but I think its a more realistic approach to him getting to the very top when he hits 30 years old, he needs a couple of good years as a great player in an average team rather than being an average player in a great team 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: Why are we not a bigger pull for quality players with wealthy owners? We sure as hell should be, but continually linked with dross. Benteke is a spent force and nothing like the player we sold four and a half years ago, simply shouldn’t be going there! We are not a big club anymore why would anyone want to come to a club that has spent the last couple of years in the second tier and now after gaining promotion via the back door is on the verge of relegation battle? We now quite rightly have a model we intend to stick to regarding recruitment and wages what do we have to attract quality players? We are the new Leicester only without as much money and not as good a scouting/recruitment team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 29 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: 6 goals in about 19 matches? 5 in 21 from what I can see 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Barbosa's next move will be a huge one for him, he had the massive reputation before he went to inter (near Neymar level, he was the next one in line) failed there, went to Benfica failed there, got the 2 loans back to brazil and dragged his reputation back, now if he joins someone like Chelsea and is a bit part player and does nothing of merit he's then 27/28 having to step down again and re-establish himself a move to us or west ham probably isn't what he wants or what will happen but I think its a more realistic approach to him getting to the very top when he hits 30 years old, he needs a couple of good years as a great player in an average team rather than being an average player in a great team 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, zab6359 said: We are not a big club anymore why would anyone want to come to a club that has spent the last couple of years in the second tier and now after gaining promotion via the back door is on the verge of relegation battle? We now quite rightly have a model we intend to stick to regarding recruitment and wages what do we have to attract quality players? We are the new Leicester only without as much money and not as good a scouting/recruitment team. What a load of bollocks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkVillan Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Cenk Tosun gone to Crystal Palace on loan for the rest of the season, we can cross him off, it’s on bbc football Thankfully 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mazrim said: What a load of bollocks. great answer thanks for your input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elton Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: 5 in 21 from what I can see Including league cup it’s 6 in 21 but minutes wise equivalent to 20 full matches. Not great but not far from 1:3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: Why are we not a bigger pull for quality players with wealthy owners? We sure as hell should be, but continually linked with dross. Benteke is a spent force and nothing like the player we sold four and a half years ago, simply shouldn’t be going there! Because we are awful and have been for years. We are in a relegation battle and don’t have any immediate history to back up anything other than relegation or staying up and fighting for top 15 next season. If I were a half decent player and not a Villa fan Villa would be pretty close to the bottom of the list of PL teams I’d want to move to. We just have claret and blue tinted glasses and cling to our “history” (which for me was all before my time and as such Villa have been awful for as long as I can remember except that brief period under MON when we won...nothing). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post omariqy Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 Re Benteke What I will say is that sometimes a player just fits a club. They feel at home, they feel confident, they feel loved. Every player uses a team as a stepping stone. Even Jack is using us a stepping stone in a different way. It's the way of football. However, if he was the 2nd of 2 strikers then I would be happy with that. Look at Mousset at Sheff Utd. Awful at Bournemouth and been one of their best players this season. Sometimes it just works. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Spoony said: Because we are awful and have been for years. We are in a relegation battle and don’t have any immediate history to back up anything other than relegation or staying up and fighting for top 15 next season. If I were a half decent player and not a Villa fan Villa would be pretty close to the bottom of the list of PL teams I’d want to move to. We just have claret and blue tinted glasses and cling to our “history” (which for me was all before my time and as such Villa have been awful for as long as I can remember except that brief period under MON when we won...nothing). Damn you for being honest, doesn't our 1957 FA cup count for anything!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, zab6359 said: We are not a big club anymore why would anyone want to come to a club that has spent the last couple of years in the second tier and now after gaining promotion via the back door is on the verge of relegation battle? We now quite rightly have a model we intend to stick to regarding recruitment and wages what do we have to attract quality players? We are the new Leicester only without as much money and not as good a scouting/recruitment team. On this note, I don't think most players around here nowadays give a crap about Villa's "big club" status and are gonna be attracted by it. Especially foreign players. Edited January 10, 2020 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: On this note, I don't think most players around here nowadays give a crap about Villa's "big club" status and are gonna be attracted by it. Especially foreign players. Exactly why would they? Money talks these days and outside of maybe Manure and Liverpool I doubt any team has serious pull on reputation alone! Edit to add any PL team I mean. Edited January 10, 2020 by zab6359 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugzy1991 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 52 minutes ago, VillaFaninLondon said: Why are we not a bigger pull for quality players with wealthy owners? We sure as hell should be, but continually linked with dross. Benteke is a spent force and nothing like the player we sold four and a half years ago, simply shouldn’t be going there! Because we very likely will go down. Why would a top player join us knowing that there's a good chance in 6 months he's going to have to reduce his wage by a big %? And it's hard to move away from a club when you've only been there for 6months. And then you got the problem of why would a team sell one of their better players when there's 5 months of the season left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lapal_fan Posted January 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Bloody hell the romance in football really is dead. Benteke returning to villa park would be unbelievable. I don’t care if he’s not the same player or past it. He is still getting minutes so must still be able to play at this level. Can you imagine the atmosphere on his debut? Benteke is so romantic for Villa he left at the first opportunity (to the wrong team) after previously trying to leave Villa in previous windows. He did well for us, and we like him, but the feeling wasn't/isn't mutual. That we got the best out of him before he turned into a rubbish striker with a scoring record Heskey would be absolutely appalled by, is great for us. Thanks for the money, but no - please don't come back. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 No team in a relegation scrap will be able to sign proven quality in January. But there are a lot of players in Europe’s big leagues on shitty wages that would jump for a chance to play in the Premier League. They would probably even play the Championship. They are all a risk though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: No team in a relegation scrap will be able to sign proven quality in January. But there are a lot of players in Europe’s big leagues on shitty wages that would jump for a chance to play in the Premier League. They would probably even play the Championship. They are all a risk though. Agreed. There is the Euro's in the summer as a joker factor in it thou. Players might make moves they would otherwise not have done if they think it will increase their chances at a spot in the Euro squad or get them more playing time to get in form. Edited January 10, 2020 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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