VillaJ100 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Our build up play is pretty slow and we're overall a kind of slow team. Most teams these days are fast and can counter mercilessly quickly but we aren't like that. It says something about our movement and passing when despite being relatively slow we find space so well with both men and passes that we create so many chances. I think that's a symptom of where we are though. If they could play passes and run at turbocharger speed they'd be amongst the best in the world 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share Posted December 29, 2019 Again and again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, abdulaziz1 said: Again and again... Quite embarrassing how we tried to handle it yesterday. When you watch Leicester doing it they keep t he ball. Moving it side to side. Making the opponent chase after the ball and tire. What did we do? Dribble or shoot from distance at any given opportunity and only leaving 2 men at the back. Just inviting Watford to counter. Horrific management. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600rr Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 keeping your best player wide left instead of central is a huge mistake v 10 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 It's like the crypton factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 If it's any consolation we are equally bad at 11 vs 11 and even worse at 10 vs 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Smith just never learns does he? 4 times we've played against 10 men. And on all occasions we've been poor. I see no difference how we handled it against Watford vs Arsenal. Bombing everyone forward leaving massive spaces for the opposition to counter. Edited December 29, 2019 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: Smith just never learns does he? 4 times we've played against 10 men. And on all occasions we've been poor. I see no difference how we handled it against Watford vs Arsenal. Bombing everyone forward leaving massive spaces for the opposition to counter. yup it really is depressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Must be one of the worst top flight teams in recent memory to continually mess up v 10 men. Even the Brighton game it took until the 94th minute to score the winner. We weren't even that great in the championship when opposition had a man sent off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 On 23/09/2019 at 14:47, villalad21 said: It's shocking really. Any other club in this league would capitalize on that advantage. the other clubs ARE capitalizing on that advantage.We keep playing Wesley,Is that a 10 man formation or not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: the other clubs ARE capitalizing on that advantage. It's down to tactics. Anyone wants to know how to play against 10 men, watch Leicester against Southampton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 How many times this season now 4 or 5 games where we had extra man, not even one game we've won against a ten man team, I find our players are insulting the opportunities given to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 14 hours ago, PussEKatt said: the other clubs ARE capitalizing on that advantage.We keep playing Wesley,Is that a 10 man formation or not ? As long as we're not scoring what we should be, I'd agree but it's not just Wesley, we have many players who have botched there chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Dave-R said: How many times this season now 4 or 5 games where we had extra man, not even one game we've won against a ten man team, I find our players are insulting the opportunities given to them. Brighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 We did win against Brighton but it was highly unconvincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 We could easily of lost the Brighton game. We were very lucky indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dave-R said: How many times this season now 4 or 5 games where we had extra man, not even one game we've won against a ten man team, I find our players are insulting the opportunities given to them. Happened few times last year too. off the top of my head, away to relegation doomed Ipswich we only drew 1-1. Forest went down to 10 and still managed to equalise in the 5-5. Couldnt score in whole of extra time vs. 10 man WBA Edited December 31, 2019 by BleedClaretAndBlue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Dave-R said: As long as we're not scoring what we should be, I'd agree but it's not just Wesley, we have many players who have botched there chances. I agree BUT the other players botch SOME of their chances,Wesley botches every chance.He is consistant,Ill give him that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 The frustration is we do actually have players who can move the ball quickly which is what you need v 10 men. Likes of Grealish, Luiz and McGinn can all do it. It's a major mentality problem though. Against West Ham we were doing o.k with patient build up then as soon as West Ham went down to 10 men we suddenly starting playing the game at 100mph and were just firing balls into the box from ridiculous angles and also constantly running into the centre of the pitch where all West Ham players were. Brainless and Grealish was as bad as the others at doing it that night. That night has hung over us since. We just panic, stop doing the basics and stuff you do well v 11 and it works against us even more than the opposition somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Its another indication of a lack of conviction in my view a first tendency to be benevolent. To seize the initiative and turn the thumb screw, requires work initially and a mental determination to hurt the opposition. another indicator is on 2 occasions now against Leeds and Watford, players have gone down injured and we have conceded, we expect sportsmanship......there is no fairness in love and war....we need to toughen up mentally. sorry, this is not crown bowls.....its a dog eat dog game. our lot need to man up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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